Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] VL6.0-SOHO-A1.45.iso

[Newt <gen...@gm...>]

Hello,

Uel: How does this affect a relatively novice osx user? Could they accidentally
leave themselves without an easy way to boot back into osx using LILO?

I'm just trying to determine if (for instance) lilo could leave someone locked out
of osx without an easy way to fix the situation.

Example: User installs VL on their mac for dual-booting. Installer does not detect
osx partition. They choose LILO as the bootloader. Lilo installs successfully with
only 'VL' and 'VL-cli' boot options. 1) Is this even possible on a mac?, and 2) if
so, is it in our best interest to have our installer probe for and include osx
partitions in the bootloader phase?

Since you have the hardware I imagine you know the answer or can determine it
pretty easily. This is probably not the most important issue but just something
that came to mind a couple days ago.

Cheers, newt

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Monday, October 12, 2009, 5:35:17 PM, you wrote:

ua> 3 of my computers here are Intel macs. they do not have a BIOS, and need
ua> something to load grub/lilo. REFIT works best for this IMO, and adds an
ua> option to boot OSX, so adding it to LILO or grub is redundant.

ua> Grub will not install to any of the HD that are partitioned GPT without the
ua> --force argument.



ua> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Newt <gen...@gm...> wrote:

>> Hello,
>>
>> Thanks for the info on REFIt. It sounds like an interesting project though
>> I'm not
>> sure I want to venture down that path at the present time.
>>
>> Personally, I'm not concerned with lilo automatically picking up my osx
>> installation as I can easily add it to lilo; plus, it's non-standard
>> implementation of osx for testing purposes. I was more thinking of other
>> standard
>> osx users who might end up "locked out" of their systems if a boot option
>> is not
>> included by default.
>>
>> Then again, it's entirely possible that apple already has a forced scenario
>> whereby a non-apple bootloader always comes second in the boot process
>> regardless
>> of user wants. Example: Perhaps efi always loads prior to mbr providing
>> options of
>> 'osx' and other bootloaders (lilo/grub/etc). This kind of scenario would
>> alleviate
>> any necessity to detect and provide a boot option for osx since apple would
>> already have their users "protected". I don't have any true apple hardware
>> so I
>> cannot say for sure.
>>
>> Cheers, newt
>>
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>
>> Monday, October 12, 2009, 3:36:29 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> JB> Moe and all,
>>
>> JB> Google may well be our friend on resolving Newt's problem in getting
>> his OS
>> JB> X entry to show in the LILO menu. The REFIt project on sf.net may or
>> may not
>> JB> be helpful to Newt:
>>
>> JB> http://refit.sourceforge.net/ - rEFIt is a boot menu and maintenance
>> toolkit
>> JB> for EFI <http://www.intel.com/technology/efi/>-based machines like the
>> Intel
>> JB> Macs <http://www.apple.com/hardware/>. You can use it to boot multiple
>> JB> operating systems easily, including triple-boot setups with Boot Camp.
>> It
>> JB> also provides an easy way to enter and explore the EFI pre-boot
>> environment.
>>
>>
>>
>> JB> Cheers,
>> JB> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
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