Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] 64-bit Linux and Kernel 2.6.16

[Tony B. <tb...@gm...>]

I think I will but it isn't slackware 64 which would be my choice.

soho 5.1.1 works great - fast, has all the apps I need and what I didn't
have I got from slacky.it.

The speed increase with native 64-bit is great though. firefox is lightning
fast.



On 3/23/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
>
> I havent  been able to get 2.6.16 downloaded yet I am stuck with subpar
> internet for few days while they rewire my house.
> most of the day  have no internet at all.
> I tried slamd64 a little while baack and it seemed pretty stable.
> have you thought about trying that one?
>
>
> On 3/23/06, Tony Brijeski <tb...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > After another day with Kanotix 64 and some more testing, I found quite =
a
> > few things to be unstable and crashing.  Multimedia is crap - the media
> > players crash.  IVTV drivers do not work - compile but do not work.  Lo=
ts of
> > KDE bugs that cause many things to segfault.
> >
> > The speed was great but the instability sucks.  Might give gentoo 64 a
> > shot next - lol.
> >
> > Has anyone tried the 2.6.16 kernel yet?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/22/06, Tony Brijeski <tb...@gm...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/22/06, Sriram Durbha < sri...@gm...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/22/06, Tony Brijeski < tb...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kanotix and Kanotix 64 are live cd's that you can install - they
> > > > > were originally based on Knoppix.  I still think the LiveCD with =
install
> > > > > option is the way to go in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I am so glad you also think like this. unfortunately when i had put
> > > > this idea forth it was in a different thread and did not get enough
> > > > momentum. however, thanks to uel's work, now every one is realizing=
 the
> > > > benefits of liveCD with install option.  also some how our liveCD e=
xperience
> > > > is really not comparable to many others, though our core OS is mile=
as ahead
> > > > of other offerings.
> > > > But since this is our first liveCD , we can come across several
> > > > areas of improvement.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've always been a fan of Live CD's.  Thats why I created the first
> > > few live cd's for VL.  They were as much a selfish venture as they we=
re to
> > > allow people to have a portable VL.  Uel took it one step further by =
working
> > > on the install portion and that is exactly what was needed.  I would =
imagine
> > > with the next generation of the kernel - 2.8.x, most of the current V=
L
> > > userbase will not be able to run it anyway.  Lots are having issues w=
ith the
> > > 2.6 kernel as it is.  2.8.x will no doubt be optimized and built
> > > around the 64-bit platform even though the kernel is a multiarch thin=
g.
> > >
> > > as for my thoughts on 64bit.  for a long time to come,  most people
> > > > will still buy 32 bit systems for home/soho use.  but most new syst=
ems might
> > > > be multi-core. say after 3 years from now, i would suspect most new=
 machines
> > > > will still be 32 bit but multi core.  For most desktop applications=
[
> > > > photoshop, media encodeers not included ] 32 bit cpus are more than=
 enough.
> > > > and the address space too. infact apple did some research and found=
 that
> > > > graphics performance actually slowed down if they made a complete s=
witch to
> > > > 64 bit arch.!!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Everywhere up here in Canada is selling 64-bit systems as standard
> > > right now.
> > >
> > > Intel is the only ones that are staying with 32-bit for now and since
> > > apple is using them, it makes marketing sense for them to say 64-bit =
isn't
> > > as good.  As far as gaming performance, it has everything to do with =
the
> > > drivers and nvidia is still having some issues with their drivers but=
 they
> > > are improving.  They do have the EM64T which are basically just P4's =
that
> > > are cloning AMD64 instruction set.
> > >
> > > 64-bit AMD's have been here for 3 years already and with Vista just
> > > around the corner, 64-bit will be the standard by years end.
> > >
> > > No doubt 32-bit will be around for a while but it will not be the
> > > standard.
> > >
> > >
> > > so we can happily tag along with slack for some time to come.  but
> > > > ofcourse if we do want to make a 64 bit os it would be cool :) ;
> > > > cheers
> > > > ram
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have a feeling Slackware will die unless it goes to 64-bit.  Most o=
f
> > > the userbase that has the savvy to run a stock slackware setup will m=
ost
> > > likely also be the folks that build their own systems and will be goi=
ng to
> > > 64-bit soon if not already like myself.  All the reading I have done =
on
> > > 64-bit distros mainly pointed to SuSE as the best choice.  While it m=
ay be
> > > easier than running debian, it was nowhere near as responsive.  Havin=
g a
> > > 64-bit CPU and seeing what it can do has spoiled me.  I still run SOH=
O on 2
> > > boxes at home(wife's laptop - p3-500 and kids desktop - p3 1G) and it=
 runs
> > > great.  I also have it still on my new box as it is completely setup =
for
> > > everything I need it to do and won't be getting rid of it anytime soo=
n.
> > >
> > > The same thing happened when P4 and AthlonXP came out - folks were
> > > happy with their P3's and Athlon's but once they saw the difference a=
nd PC
> > > vendors starting only shipping the new CPU's, they were forced to go =
with
> > > them.
> > >
> > >
> > > To give you an idea of how debian 64-bit linux runs on my humble
> > > 64-bit system, I would liken it to how regular VL with icewm ran on m=
y
> > > AthlonXP 2400+ - very quick and almost instant response.  A big diffe=
rence
> > > from SuSE 64-bit.
> > >
> > > My main hard drive on my 64-bit system is now about to die and I will
> > > be replacing it with a sata drive which is at least 200GB in size so =
I will
> > > have lots of "devel" and "play" space.  It will also free up my slave=
 drive
> > > which has SOHO on it for other uses.
> > >
> > >
> >
>