Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] 64-bit Linux and Kernel 2.6.16

[Tony B. <tb...@gm...>]

After another day with Kanotix 64 and some more testing, I found quite a fe=
w
things to be unstable and crashing.  Multimedia is crap - the media players
crash.  IVTV drivers do not work - compile but do not work.  Lots of KDE
bugs that cause many things to segfault.

The speed was great but the instability sucks.  Might give gentoo 64 a shot
next - lol.

Has anyone tried the 2.6.16 kernel yet?


On 3/22/06, Tony Brijeski <tb...@gm...> wrote:
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> On 3/22/06, Sriram Durbha <sri...@gm...> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > On 3/22/06, Tony Brijeski < tb...@gm...> wrote:
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> > >
> > > Kanotix and Kanotix 64 are live cd's that you can install - they were
> > > originally based on Knoppix.  I still think the LiveCD with install o=
ption
> > > is the way to go in the future.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I am so glad you also think like this. unfortunately when i had put thi=
s
> > idea forth it was in a different thread and did not get enough momentum=
.
> > however, thanks to uel's work, now every one is realizing the benefits =
of
> > liveCD with install option.  also some how our liveCD experience is rea=
lly
> > not comparable to many others, though our core OS is mileas ahead of ot=
her
> > offerings.
> > But since this is our first liveCD , we can come across several areas o=
f
> > improvement.
> >
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>
> I've always been a fan of Live CD's.  Thats why I created the first few
> live cd's for VL.  They were as much a selfish venture as they were to al=
low
> people to have a portable VL.  Uel took it one step further by working on
> the install portion and that is exactly what was needed.  I would imagine
> with the next generation of the kernel - 2.8.x, most of the current VL
> userbase will not be able to run it anyway.  Lots are having issues with =
the
> 2.6 kernel as it is.  2.8.x will no doubt be optimized and built around
> the 64-bit platform even though the kernel is a multiarch thing.
>
> as for my thoughts on 64bit.  for a long time to come,  most people will
> > still buy 32 bit systems for home/soho use.  but most new systems might=
 be
> > multi-core. say after 3 years from now, i would suspect most new machin=
es
> > will still be 32 bit but multi core.  For most desktop applications[
> > photoshop, media encodeers not included ] 32 bit cpus are more than eno=
ugh.
> > and the address space too. infact apple did some research and found tha=
t
> > graphics performance actually slowed down if they made a complete switc=
h to
> > 64 bit arch.!!
> >
>
> Everywhere up here in Canada is selling 64-bit systems as standard right
> now.
>
> Intel is the only ones that are staying with 32-bit for now and since
> apple is using them, it makes marketing sense for them to say 64-bit isn'=
t
> as good.  As far as gaming performance, it has everything to do with the
> drivers and nvidia is still having some issues with their drivers but the=
y
> are improving.  They do have the EM64T which are basically just P4's that
> are cloning AMD64 instruction set.
>
> 64-bit AMD's have been here for 3 years already and with Vista just aroun=
d
> the corner, 64-bit will be the standard by years end.
>
> No doubt 32-bit will be around for a while but it will not be the
> standard.
>
>
> so we can happily tag along with slack for some time to come.  but
> > ofcourse if we do want to make a 64 bit os it would be cool :) ;
> > cheers
> > ram
> >
>
> I have a feeling Slackware will die unless it goes to 64-bit.  Most of th=
e
> userbase that has the savvy to run a stock slackware setup will most like=
ly
> also be the folks that build their own systems and will be going to 64-bi=
t
> soon if not already like myself.  All the reading I have done on 64-bit
> distros mainly pointed to SuSE as the best choice.  While it may be easie=
r
> than running debian, it was nowhere near as responsive.  Having a 64-bit =
CPU
> and seeing what it can do has spoiled me.  I still run SOHO on 2 boxes at
> home(wife's laptop - p3-500 and kids desktop - p3 1G) and it runs great. =
 I
> also have it still on my new box as it is completely setup for everything=
 I
> need it to do and won't be getting rid of it anytime soon.
>
> The same thing happened when P4 and AthlonXP came out - folks were happy
> with their P3's and Athlon's but once they saw the difference and PC vend=
ors
> starting only shipping the new CPU's, they were forced to go with them.
>
>
> To give you an idea of how debian 64-bit linux runs on my humble 64-bit
> system, I would liken it to how regular VL with icewm ran on my AthlonXP
> 2400+ - very quick and almost instant response.  A big difference from Su=
SE
> 64-bit.
>
> My main hard drive on my 64-bit system is now about to die and I will be
> replacing it with a sata drive which is at least 200GB in size so I will
> have lots of "devel" and "play" space.  It will also free up my slave dri=
ve
> which has SOHO on it for other uses.
>
>