Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] 64-bit Linux and Kernel 2.6.16

[Tony B. <tb...@gm...>]

Robert - all you have to do on VL is upgrade udev and go with the
2.6.16kernel and it will work.  All the other stuff he has is fine but
not needed.

Hotplug will still be needed for ISA PNP stuff so we should ask on install
if they have any old lagacy isa cards.  If they don't, then straight udev
will work perfectly for them.



On 3/22/06, Robert Lange <vec...@ya...> wrote:
>
>
> --- Tony Brijeski <tb...@gm...> wrote:
>
> > On 3/21/06, Vanger <fa...@gm...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Kernel 2.6.16 is out.  Lets all try it out and
> > see if we can do the
> > > uevent
> > > > udev thing instead of hotplug and udev together.
>
>
> Here is a link I found for implementing the new udev
> on slack based systems. This requires at least the
> kernel 2.6.15 to work and 2.6.16 came out yesterday.
> This may require a bit of hacking to run nicely on
> vector but it's a start.........:)
> Cheers,
> Vec
> http://piterpunk.info02.com.br/extra/
>
>
> > > Just downloaded, will try.
> > >
> > > > Anyone who tries to say 64-bit is much better
> > than 32-bit probably
> > > doesn't
> > > > know what they are talking about and are just
> > going along with AMD and
> > > Intel
> > > > hype about 64-bit.
> > > Well, the kernel compiles on Slamd64 in about 1.5
> > times faster, then
> > > on VL. But that does not overweight the libraries'
> > troubles.
> >
> >
> > Kernel compiles will be faster due to the 64 bit
> > registers but overall speed
> > is not much different.  There is some difference
> > with 64 bit native apps but
> > not enough to justify losing the ease of use of 32
> > bit distros.  32-bit apps
> > run the same on 64 as they do on 32 unless they
> > heavily use peripherals via
> > the kernel which would speed them up a bit as well.
> >
> > > My Sempron 2800+( 1.6 Gig but
> > > > overclocked to 2.0 gig 200fsbX10) socket 754 cpu
> > on the k8n mobo
> > > How did you do it? 2800+ has locked multiplier 8x.
> >
> >
> >
> > My mistake - lol.  I meant to write 250x8 for 2.0
> > Gig.  Yes the x86_64 cpus
> > are multiplier locked.  My mobo allows me to raise
> > the cpu fsb independant
> > of agp and memory speed.
> >
> > > runs about the same as my old AthlonXP 2400+(2.0
> > Gig
> > > Well, usual system tasks are nearly the same. When
> > you are doing some
> > > math and optimise the program for your
> > architecture, K8 performs
> > > really better, then K7.
> >
> >
> > Yes but there are very few applications that take
> > full advantage of the
> > 64-bit architecture at this time.  Some have been
> > rewritten to include the
> > 64 bit registers but not as optimized as they should
> > be.  They are basically
> > ports of 32 bit.  This will hopefully change in the
> > future.
> >
> > I'm going to give Kanotix 64 a shot this evening
> > which is just debian 64 but
> > I will also have to setup a 32-bit chroot
> > environment for it or try the
> > ia32-libs install to see if that works for 32 bit
> > apps.
> >
> > I don't think simply installing a kernel that is
> > x86_64 optimized would do
> > anything without using a 64-bit compiler and
> > recompiling all libraries that
> > have 64-bit ports.
> >
> > If VL goes 64-bit, it would have to be total 64-bit
> > with 32 bit libs for
> > those apps that won't compile under 64 bit.
> >
> >
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