Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] 64-bit Linux and Kernel 2.6.16

[Robert L. <vec...@ya...>]

--- Tony Brijeski <tb...@gm...> wrote:

> On 3/21/06, Vanger <fa...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > > Kernel 2.6.16 is out.  Lets all try it out and
> see if we can do the
> > uevent
> > > udev thing instead of hotplug and udev together.


Here is a link I found for implementing the new udev
on slack based systems. This requires at least the
kernel 2.6.15 to work and 2.6.16 came out yesterday.
This may require a bit of hacking to run nicely on
vector but it's a start.........:)
Cheers,
Vec
http://piterpunk.info02.com.br/extra/


> > Just downloaded, will try.
> >
> > > Anyone who tries to say 64-bit is much better
> than 32-bit probably
> > doesn't
> > > know what they are talking about and are just
> going along with AMD and
> > Intel
> > > hype about 64-bit.
> > Well, the kernel compiles on Slamd64 in about 1.5
> times faster, then
> > on VL. But that does not overweight the libraries'
> troubles.
> 
> 
> Kernel compiles will be faster due to the 64 bit
> registers but overall speed
> is not much different.  There is some difference
> with 64 bit native apps but
> not enough to justify losing the ease of use of 32
> bit distros.  32-bit apps
> run the same on 64 as they do on 32 unless they
> heavily use peripherals via
> the kernel which would speed them up a bit as well.
> 
> > My Sempron 2800+( 1.6 Gig but
> > > overclocked to 2.0 gig 200fsbX10) socket 754 cpu
> on the k8n mobo
> > How did you do it? 2800+ has locked multiplier 8x.
> 
> 
> 
> My mistake - lol.  I meant to write 250x8 for 2.0
> Gig.  Yes the x86_64 cpus
> are multiplier locked.  My mobo allows me to raise
> the cpu fsb independant
> of agp and memory speed.
> 
> > runs about the same as my old AthlonXP 2400+(2.0
> Gig
> > Well, usual system tasks are nearly the same. When
> you are doing some
> > math and optimise the program for your
> architecture, K8 performs
> > really better, then K7.
> 
> 
> Yes but there are very few applications that take 
> full advantage of the
> 64-bit architecture at this time.  Some have been
> rewritten to include the
> 64 bit registers but not as optimized as they should
> be.  They are basically
> ports of 32 bit.  This will hopefully change in the
> future.
> 
> I'm going to give Kanotix 64 a shot this evening
> which is just debian 64 but
> I will also have to setup a 32-bit chroot
> environment for it or try the
> ia32-libs install to see if that works for 32 bit
> apps.
> 
> I don't think simply installing a kernel that is
> x86_64 optimized would do
> anything without using a 64-bit compiler and
> recompiling all libraries that
> have 64-bit ports.
> 
> If VL goes 64-bit, it would have to be total 64-bit
> with 32 bit libs for
> those apps that won't compile under 64 bit.
> 
> 
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Robert Lange
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http://www.vectorlinux.com

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