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From: kevin.lemorzadec <kev...@mu...> - 2016-02-04 21:30:55
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Hi all,
I am having troubles understanding the outputs generated by valgrind.
I compile my fortran code with the following flags: -c -tp x64 -r8 -i4
-Mnolre -Mnovect -Mnounroll -g
I start it using valgrind doing: valgrind --tool=memcheck --leak-check=full
./rsiNE 54 2002SK1 NAEUa
rsiNE is a csh script starts the code with some parameters and file names
doing:
#!/bin/csh
./paleonSG<< EOF >& out.pal
4 1 1
02
...
...
...
EOF
I use Valgrind-3.5.0 and added the apport-valgrind package
The output results are:
==4880== HEAP SUMMARY:
==4880== in use at exit: 174,555 bytes in 2,130 blocks
==4880== total heap usage: 53,125 allocs, 50,995 frees, 16,456,811 bytes
allocated
==4880==
==4880== 4 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 7 of 548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x439361: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x43F964: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x415F14: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x412012: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x410EBE: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880==
==4880== 8 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 18 of 548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404D84: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x406910: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so)
==4880==
==4880== 8 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 19 of 548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x4067B9: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so)
==4880==
==4880== 8 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 20 of 548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41677B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x405FD9: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so)
==4880==
==4880== 16 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 120 of 548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41AFC8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x410C43: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404A42: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880==
==4880== 24 bytes in 3 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 240 of 548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404A42: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880==
==4880== 104 bytes in 13 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 493 of
548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x406734: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so)
==4880==
==4880== 920 bytes in 3 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 518 of 548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41AFC8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x410C43: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F7D8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404A42: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880==
==4880== 1,288 bytes in 4 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 522 of
548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41AFC8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x410C43: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F7D8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404D84: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880==
==4880== 2,200 (800 direct, 1,400 indirect) bytes in 1 blocks are
definitely lost in loss record 528 of 548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x439361: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x415338: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x415E6D: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x4133F1: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x406734: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so)
==4880==
==4880== 8,148 (1,040 direct, 7,108 indirect) bytes in 1 blocks are
definitely lost in loss record 542 of 548
==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195)
==4880== by 0x439361: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x43FF0A: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x411C0F: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x412020: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x404D84: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880== by 0x406910: ??? (in /bin/tcsh)
==4880==
==4880== LEAK SUMMARY:
==4880== definitely lost: 4,220 bytes in 30 blocks
==4880== indirectly lost: 8,508 bytes in 143 blocks
==4880== possibly lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==4880== still reachable: 161,827 bytes in 1,957 blocks
==4880== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==4880== Reachable blocks (those to which a pointer was found) are not
shown.
==4880== To see them, rerun with: --leak-check=full --show-reachable=yes
==4880==
==4880== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==4880== ERROR SUMMARY: 11 errors from 11 contexts (suppressed: 4 from 4)
Any idea of what I am doing wrong??
Thanks in advance for any clarification.
--
Kevin Le Morzadec - Ph.D. candidate
Dept of Physics and Physical Oceanography,
Memorial University of Newfoundland, Canada
Tel 709-864-8654
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From: John R. <jr...@bi...> - 2016-02-04 22:07:11
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> I compile my fortran code with the following flags: -c -tp x64 -r8 -i4 -Mnolre -Mnovect -Mnounroll -g > > I start it using valgrind doing: valgrind --tool=memcheck --leak-check=full ./rsiNE 54 2002SK1 NAEUa > > rsiNE is a csh script starts the code with some parameters and file names doing: > #!/bin/csh > ./paleonSG<< EOF >& out.pal > 4 1 1 > 02 > ... > ... > ... > EOF > I use Valgrind-3.5.0 and added the apport-valgrind package > Any idea of what I am doing wrong?? You are using valgrind-3.5.0 which is FIVE YEARS OBSOLETE. The current version is 3.11.0. UPGRADE NOW! Then grab a clue from: valgrind --help | grep child |
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From: David C. <dcc...@ac...> - 2016-02-04 22:14:44
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On 2/4/2016 1:30 PM, kevin.lemorzadec wrote: > Hi all, > > I am having troubles understanding the outputs generated by valgrind. > > I compile my fortran code with the following flags: -c -tp x64 -r8 > -i4 -Mnolre -Mnovect -Mnounroll -g > > I start it using valgrind doing: valgrind --tool=memcheck > --leak-check=full ./rsiNE 54 2002SK1 NAEUa > > rsiNE is a csh script starts the code with some parameters and file > names doing: > #!/bin/csh > ./paleonSG<< EOF >& out.pal > 4 1 1 > 02 > ... > ... > ... > EOF You are seeing messages from the execution of the shell (/bin/tcsh is a common implementation of the C shell), not the FORTRAN program launched inside. Try adding the valgrind parameters to the front of the paleonSG command line within the script: #!/bin/csh valgrind --tool=memcheck --leak-check=full ./paleonSG<< EOF >& out.pal ... By default valgrind does not trace into spawned programs, and there is no reason for you to look for memory leaks in tcsh unless you are a tcsh developer. > > > I use Valgrind-3.5.0 and added the apport-valgrind package > > The output results are: > > ==4880== HEAP SUMMARY: > ==4880== in use at exit: 174,555 bytes in 2,130 blocks > ==4880== total heap usage: 53,125 allocs, 50,995 frees, 16,456,811 > bytes allocated > ==4880== > ==4880== 4 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 7 of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x439361: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x43F964: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x415F14: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x412012: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x410EBE: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== > ==4880== 8 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 18 of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404D84: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x406910: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so > <http://libc-2.5.so>) > ==4880== > ==4880== 8 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 19 of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x4067B9: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so > <http://libc-2.5.so>) > ==4880== > ==4880== 8 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 20 of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41677B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x405FD9: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so > <http://libc-2.5.so>) > ==4880== > ==4880== 16 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 120 > of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41AFC8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x410C43: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404A42: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== > ==4880== 24 bytes in 3 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 240 > of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404A42: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== > ==4880== 104 bytes in 13 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 493 > of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41B33B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404ABC: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x406734: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so > <http://libc-2.5.so>) > ==4880== > ==4880== 920 bytes in 3 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 518 > of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41AFC8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x410C43: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F7D8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404A42: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== > ==4880== 1,288 bytes in 4 blocks are definitely lost in loss record > 522 of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x4392EA: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41AFC8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x410C43: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F7D8: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404D84: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== > ==4880== 2,200 (800 direct, 1,400 indirect) bytes in 1 blocks are > definitely lost in loss record 528 of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x439361: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x415338: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x415E6D: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x4133F1: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x406734: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x3522A1D9F3: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.5.so > <http://libc-2.5.so>) > ==4880== > ==4880== 8,148 (1,040 direct, 7,108 indirect) bytes in 1 blocks are > definitely lost in loss record 542 of 548 > ==4880== at 0x4A0610C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:195) > ==4880== by 0x439361: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x43FF0A: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x411C0F: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x412020: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41FD30: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x41F827: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x403BC4: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x40470B: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404931: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x404D84: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== by 0x406910: ??? (in /bin/tcsh) > ==4880== > ==4880== LEAK SUMMARY: > ==4880== definitely lost: 4,220 bytes in 30 blocks > ==4880== indirectly lost: 8,508 bytes in 143 blocks > ==4880== possibly lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks > ==4880== still reachable: 161,827 bytes in 1,957 blocks > ==4880== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks > ==4880== Reachable blocks (those to which a pointer was found) are not > shown. > ==4880== To see them, rerun with: --leak-check=full --show-reachable=yes > ==4880== > ==4880== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v > ==4880== ERROR SUMMARY: 11 errors from 11 contexts (suppressed: 4 from 4) > > > Any idea of what I am doing wrong?? > > Thanks in advance for any clarification. > > > -- > Kevin Le Morzadec - Ph.D. candidate > Dept of Physics and Physical Oceanography, > Memorial University of Newfoundland, Canada > Tel 709-864-8654 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. 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