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From: Matt H. <mh...@me...> - 2013-05-28 05:32:59
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What is the status of 16C devices? I noticed there are some commented enums in the firmware prog.h and pictype.h and device_table.h have 16CXXX listings, but there aren't any 16C devices in index.xml. Were these intended for the future, but never implemented, or were they disabled for some reason? Thanks, Matt |
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From: Frans S. <fra...@gm...> - 2013-05-28 06:25:10
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Dear Matt Hirch, Since 16C devices are a little outdated, I have never invested time in implementing them. If you need support for a certain PIC16C, I can implement it for you. I think it is more useful though to invest time in the newer PIC families. Those devices are often cheaper, have more features and can be programmed more than once. Kind regards, Frans Schreuder On 05/28/2013 07:17 AM, Matt Hirsch wrote: > What is the status of 16C devices? I noticed there are some commented > enums in the firmware prog.h and pictype.h and device_table.h have > 16CXXX listings, but there aren't any 16C devices in index.xml. > > Were these intended for the future, but never implemented, or were they > disabled for some reason? > > Thanks, > Matt > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt > New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service > that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your > browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic > and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may > _______________________________________________ > Usbpicprog-technical mailing list > Usb...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/usbpicprog-technical |
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From: Matt H. <mh...@me...> - 2013-05-28 17:24:30
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Frans, Agreed - I typically don't use these. I have a UV erasable part - 16c622 - that's part of an old project, and I wanted to make a small change to it. I actually have piles of spares of these as well. Anyway, I used to use a picstart programmer to program these, but it has since died. I see there are plenty of drop in replacements for this part, so I can probably just use something else if it's a big deal to implement support, but I suppose it would be *nice* if its not too hard. Thanks for getting back to me! Matt On 05/28/2013 02:25 AM, Frans Schreuder wrote: > Dear Matt Hirch, > > Since 16C devices are a little outdated, I have never invested time in > implementing them. > If you need support for a certain PIC16C, I can implement it for you. > I think it is more useful though to invest time in the newer PIC families. > Those devices are often cheaper, have more features and can be > programmed more than once. > > Kind regards, > > Frans Schreuder > > On 05/28/2013 07:17 AM, Matt Hirsch wrote: >> What is the status of 16C devices? I noticed there are some commented >> enums in the firmware prog.h and pictype.h and device_table.h have >> 16CXXX listings, but there aren't any 16C devices in index.xml. >> >> Were these intended for the future, but never implemented, or were they >> disabled for some reason? >> >> Thanks, >> Matt >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt >> New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service >> that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your >> browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic >> and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may >> _______________________________________________ >> Usbpicprog-technical mailing list >> Usb...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/usbpicprog-technical > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt > New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service > that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your > browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic > and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may > _______________________________________________ > Usbpicprog-technical mailing list > Usb...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/usbpicprog-technical |
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From: Frans S. <fra...@gm...> - 2013-05-29 13:42:52
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Hi Matt, I have implemented a bunch of 16C microcontrollers. Please test version 130529. I have built a binary for ubuntu, for Windows I will build a binary later. Regards, Frans On 05/28/2013 07:24 PM, Matt Hirsch wrote: > Frans, > > Agreed - I typically don't use these. I have a UV erasable part - 16c622 > - that's part of an old project, and I wanted to make a small change to > it. I actually have piles of spares of these as well. Anyway, I used to > use a picstart programmer to program these, but it has since died. I see > there are plenty of drop in replacements for this part, so I can > probably just use something else if it's a big deal to implement > support, but I suppose it would be *nice* if its not too hard. > > Thanks for getting back to me! > > Matt > > On 05/28/2013 02:25 AM, Frans Schreuder wrote: >> Dear Matt Hirch, >> >> Since 16C devices are a little outdated, I have never invested time in >> implementing them. >> If you need support for a certain PIC16C, I can implement it for you. >> I think it is more useful though to invest time in the newer PIC families. >> Those devices are often cheaper, have more features and can be >> programmed more than once. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Frans Schreuder >> >> On 05/28/2013 07:17 AM, Matt Hirsch wrote: >>> What is the status of 16C devices? I noticed there are some commented >>> enums in the firmware prog.h and pictype.h and device_table.h have >>> 16CXXX listings, but there aren't any 16C devices in index.xml. >>> >>> Were these intended for the future, but never implemented, or were they >>> disabled for some reason? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Matt >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt >>> New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service >>> that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your >>> browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic >>> and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Usbpicprog-technical mailing list >>> Usb...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/usbpicprog-technical >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt >> New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service >> that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your >> browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic >> and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may >> _______________________________________________ >> Usbpicprog-technical mailing list >> Usb...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/usbpicprog-technical > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt > New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service > that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your > browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic > and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may > _______________________________________________ > Usbpicprog-technical mailing list > Usb...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/usbpicprog-technical |
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From: Matt H. <mh...@me...> - 2013-06-02 04:43:27
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Frans, I got a chance to try 130529. It seems like things are not quite working yet. The 16C622 isn't autodetected. I get this on the command line: ReadId: 00 ReadId: 00 ReadId: 00 ReadId: 00 ReadId: 00 ReadId: 3fff ReadId: 3fff ReadId: ffff Autodetected PIC ID: 0xffffffff Manually selecting the part and attempting to read it returns all 0x3fff. I also tried programming a part, but it fails on verify. Also, the GUI leaves the "erase before programming" flag checked when 16C622 is selected -- which doesn't make sense when a 16C part is selected. (It fails on the erase step without getting to the programming). I tested my programmer with the 130529 firmware on a few grab bag parts - 16f876 and 16f84, and both read and programmed successfully. Just to be sure I measured my VPP while connected to the chip, and it came it at 11.92V. I'm happy to help with any debugging info you might need, and I really appreciate your taking the time to implement support for this. However, if it's going to be a headache for you it's ok by me to drop it. Best, Matt On 05/29/2013 09:42 AM, Frans Schreuder wrote: > Hi Matt, > > I have implemented a bunch of 16C microcontrollers. Please test version > 130529. > I have built a binary for ubuntu, for Windows I will build a binary later. > > Regards, > > Frans > > On 05/28/2013 07:24 PM, Matt Hirsch wrote: >> Frans, >> >> Agreed - I typically don't use these. I have a UV erasable part - 16c622 >> - that's part of an old project, and I wanted to make a small change to >> it. I actually have piles of spares of these as well. Anyway, I used to >> use a picstart programmer to program these, but it has since died. I see >> there are plenty of drop in replacements for this part, so I can >> probably just use something else if it's a big deal to implement >> support, but I suppose it would be *nice* if its not too hard. >> >> Thanks for getting back to me! >> >> Matt >> >> On 05/28/2013 02:25 AM, Frans Schreuder wrote: >>> Dear Matt Hirch, >>> >>> Since 16C devices are a little outdated, I have never invested time in >>> implementing them. >>> If you need support for a certain PIC16C, I can implement it for you. >>> I think it is more useful though to invest time in the newer PIC families. >>> Those devices are often cheaper, have more features and can be >>> programmed more than once. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Frans Schreuder >>> >>> On 05/28/2013 07:17 AM, Matt Hirsch wrote: >>>> What is the status of 16C devices? I noticed there are some commented >>>> enums in the firmware prog.h and pictype.h and device_table.h have >>>> 16CXXX listings, but there aren't any 16C devices in index.xml. >>>> >>>> Were these intended for the future, but never implemented, or were they >>>> disabled for some reason? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt >>>> New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service >>>> that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your >>>> browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. 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