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RE: [upnp-sdk-dev] Project UPnP is DEAD
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From: Dan B. <dba...@us...> - 2006-04-16 05:47:27
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I am a little confused by this whole thread. This project started in = 2001 and generated little development interest from anybody until late in = 2005. After years of not seeing anything really going on, I stopped monitoring = the project (other than the mailing lists) because I did not have the time. = Our intentions when creating this project were not to be the maintainers for = the long term but to find someone willing and able to take over. = Unfortunately, that person (or persons) never turned up. We contacted a few people that might be interested over the years but were turned down. In the last few months, we have received several "threats" about forking = the project. My question to you is why don't you (in the plural sense) step = up and take over this one instead of creating confusion by forking the = project? If you have the time and interest to take over the project, I am more = than willing to pass it on. The intention never was to ignore anybody's contributions but with little time and no one to help, it was = inevitable. Let me know if this is something you would like to do. It only takes a = few clicks of the mouse to pass on the torch. - Dan - -----Original Message----- From: upn...@li... [mailto:upn...@li...] On Behalf Of = qx...@gm... Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:45 AM To: Nektarios K. Papadopoulos Cc: upn...@li... Subject: Re: [upnp-sdk-dev] Project UPnP is DEAD Hi, the worst thing behind these ancient patches: there also has been one of = a RedHat developer, that means the project had a contribution from a = developer of the probably most important Linux distribution and ignored it. What I completely don't understand is why these patches are ignored for = that long time. Applying one to the current CVS mostly isn't a big problem = but if they are that old like most of them it becomes nearly impossible to do = that. And I think thats the best way of demotivating developers and people = that want to help: waiting until their work becomes useless... Michael PS: Currently I'm a developer within the UPNP project but depending on = the progress that the project makes I'm still thinking about a fork from it where the contributions and efforts other people make are more = respected. > --- Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht --- > Von: "Nektarios K. Papadopoulos" <npa...@in...> > An: upn...@li... > Betreff: Re: [upnp-sdk-dev] Project UPnP is DEAD > Datum: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:46:06 +0300 >=20 > Hi Dan, >=20 > I've been using upnp-sdk for the last 12 months so I've to thank the=20 > creators/maintainers for this. Congrats! >=20 > OTOH, I've been subscribed to the mailing lists for the same amount of = > time and I'm sorry to say that before 1.3.1 came out, I had the same=20 > feeling with Mike. >=20 > The list of open patches/bugs that goes back a few years is certainly=20 > giving that impression. I've submitted three of them myself and I've = to=20 > say that when I did I was thinking "I don't expect anyone to see=20 > this...". 2 of them got closed with 1.3.1 release. >=20 > When I saw the 1.3.1 announcement, I was totally surprised. The 1.3.0=20 > released just one day before, was never announced. There was no=20 > discussion on the list about the plans, no pre-release for us to test = etc. >=20 > I mean, even Remi's queries "Is libupnp maintained ?" and "automake = and=20 > autoconf for libupnp ?" back in Oct 13 2005 remained unanswered in the = > dev list. Obviously, they were answered/discussed privately but this=20 > does not help to attract more developers. >=20 > I think you could have been more clear about "help wanted"; as you = just=20 > did ;-) > So, I'd like to help with the project anyway I can (when time = permits). >=20 > BR, > Nektarios >=20 > Dan Baumberger wrote: > > Why should you be surprised if the maintainers are still active? How = did > you > > get subscribed to the SDK dev mailing list if there are no = maintainers? > >=20 > > The project was inactive not for lack of interest by the = maintainers, > but > > lack of interest from the community. For years, no one was really > willing to > > contribute anything nor was anyone interested in taking over the > project. > > Those of us who started the project have been waiting to see if any > interest > > kindled in the project. Only in the last couple of months has some > interest > > sparked.=20 > >=20 > > As for developer interest, I've been monitoring the mailing lists = from > day > > one. Other than Remi and John of late, there hasn't been much = developer > > interest. I haven't seen much email with patches or queries about > getting > > involved. Had I seen that, I would have responded.=20 > >=20 > > If you wish to take over as the (or a) maintainer of the project, = let me > > know and I can add you. I would like to see this project continue to > > flourish. It is just unfortunate that I do not have the time to > contribute > > to this project. > >=20 > > - Dan - > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: upn...@li... > > [mailto:upn...@li...] On Behalf Of > qx...@gm... > > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:25 AM > > To: upn...@li...; > > upn...@li... > > Subject: [upnp-sdk-dev] Project UPnP is DEAD > >=20 > > Not very funny what I can see... > >=20 > > - the homepage at upnp.sf.net is totally outdated, not only the = latest > > release isn't mentioned there > >=20 > > - the maintainers seem to be not interested in the project, the > bugtracker > > is full of open bugs > >=20 > > - patches and modifications that are sent in by developers are = ignored, > > nothing new is integrated > >=20 > > So I'd not be astonished if there are also no maintainers active = within > the > > mailing lists. For me that means the project is dead, apparently = because > of > > the lack of interest of the maintainers while developers are willing = and > > able to contribute to the project. > >=20 > > Also if I won't expect to get an answer: what plans are there with = the > > future of the libupnp? > >=20 > > Mike > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > = http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&dat=3D= 121642 > _______________________________________________ > Upnp-sdk-dev mailing list > Upn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/upnp-sdk-dev >=20 --=20 Analog-/ISDN-Nutzer sparen mit GMX SmartSurfer bis zu 70%! 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