[tuxracer-devel] Re: tuxracer-devel digest, Vol 1 #48 - 3 msgs

[kb <kb...@cl...>]

Howdy,
Sorry for the duplicate last time.  Jasmin after reading this if you still
want a copy let me know.  I can easily duplicate my initial set up.
I was able to determine the problem or problems with my trees.rgb.  This is
what I did:
                ***This is with the Windows Version.   And I am using Gimp
1.1.24 for Windows on a Wndows 2000 box.***
I copied my terrain.rgb to become my trees.rgb file, so I would have a good
reference of where to place herring and such.   I then inverted the colors
so the background is black and the path is white.  I used the "fill" tool to
change most of the white path to black.  The only thing that didn't change
was the edges of the path cause they were various shades of white to black.
Seeing the white I said cool I could have a path lined with pine trees.   I
then added my start line and finish line and added alot of herring cause I
knew since my time was going to be extremely long I needed a lot of fish to
compensate so there would be a possibility of a score.  Well I did not take
into account that the game would recognize all the other shades of gray
along the edges of the path and then try to find a corresponding item to add
to the map.  Most of the pixels were registered as Starting Lines.  When I
started the game and selected my map, my first surprise was the fact that
nothing was there.  The landscape was blank.   I immediately escaped out and
checked to see if I was using the right trees.rgb.   I was.  So I started
the game again and selected the map and still nothing showed up from my
trees.rgb.   Well I ran the map anyways, and surprise, surprise half way
down the map all of my items from the trees.rgb started showing up.... in
clumps.  There was a clump of Starting Lines here and then somemore over
there.   The same thing was true of herring, red flags, etc.    And yes pine
trees were lining the path.   Well finally after messing with everything in
the course.tcl and nothing helped I started playing with the trees.rgb.
I then started paying attention to all of the various levels of gray along
the path.   When I zoomed in enough I could really see the distinct
differences between the grays and the black background.   I figured out that
the game was recognizing that as the dark green Starting Lines.   Once I
removed all of the shades of gray along the edge.   It worked fine.   Well
fine to the point that everything was in the correct location.  So it seems
that there is a limitation on the number of total items the game can
recognize.  If someone has found differently please let me know.  I tested
it by first having a trees.rgb that was entirely the same color has herring.
The game would play the map.  Then I set it up like a checker board light
blue and black.   The map would start but nothing was at the top and before
I got very far the fps (frames per second) had gone from 35 to 2 and nearly
locked up.   By slowly removing herring (or light blue), I finally got the
herring to be represented correctly on the map but it was still too many
cause the fps was stilling dropping to single digits.  Each time it happened
I stopped it and removed more herring from the trees.rgb.   Eventually I got
back to around 30 fps which is where the other maps  were running.  Well
that is the saga, but it has been a great learning experience.  I apologize
for this being so long.  I actually condensced it. 8-) just kidding.   As I
said before, Jasmin, let me know if you still want a copy.

Thanks,
Carey

----- Original Message -----
From: <tux...@li...>
To: <tux...@li...>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 3:19 PM
Subject: tuxracer-devel digest, Vol 1 #48 - 3 msgs

> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:19:28 -0400
> From: Jasmin Patry <jf...@mu...>
> To: tux...@li...
> Subject: Re: [tuxracer-devel] skewing the map
> Reply-To: tux...@li...
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Can you send me a copy of your level?  Send it to me, not to the
> list, and tar and gzip it before sending please.
>
> It's possible that this is a bug; having your files to test with would
> certainly help determine that.
>
> Cheers,
> Jasmin
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 02:05:39AM -0400, kb wrote:
> > Howdy,
> > First I want to say I love TuxRacer.  It is a blast.  And I want to
> > thank you for creating something that is so easy to customize and play
> > with.   This is the first time I have ever tried making my levels or
> > maps.  I am having a little difficulty, however.   I am one of those
> > crazy people that jump right in and try and do something really big
> > instead of starting off small.    I like big maps like to be able to
> > go on and on.  So I created a map that is 100 x 5000 pixels.  I know I
> > am completely nuts but I love the it just keeps goin' and goin'.   My
> > question is can the game only handle so many items on the trees.rgb no
> > matter how big the map is?   My trees.rgb is not being represented
> > correctly and I am wondering if I have overloaded it.   Except for
> > some trees that are showing up all along the route, all my items
> > herring, flags and starting line (actually lines) don't start until
> > half way down the map.  Then they fill up nearly the whole thing.  I
> > have multiple starting lines, fish, etc.   Is it just too big or is
> > there a parameter in the course.tcl file that I need to play with to
> > get the right effect?  Thanks in advance for the help  and my hat is
> > off to you Jasmin and your team this is a great game.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Carey Lott
> >
>
> --
> Jasmin Patry               Master's Student, Dept. of Computer Science
> jf...@cg...         http://www.cgl.uwaterloo.ca/~jfpatry/
>
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