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#66 First mouse click in Fullscreen minimizes TP to taskbar
OS: Windows 98 SE
Tux Paint: ver 0.9.16
Tux Paint has been configured to launch in full screen mode. Upon launching, attempting to click anywhere in the program immediately minimized Tux Paint to the Windows Task Bar and the Windows desktop is visible. Clicking the Task Bar button for Tux Paint maximizes the program to full screen, and this behavior is not seen again.
Configuration for Tux Paint has been re-run without affecting behavior.
Changing Tux Paint to windowed mode (uncheck fullscreen) does not exhibit this behavior.
Window size is 1024x768 matching screen resolution.
Changing to 800x600 did not affect the behavior. Fullscreen mode still minimizes with first mouse click in the program.
Steps to reproduce:
Windows 98SE
Resolution 1024x768
Configure Tux Paint for Fullscreen
-No other programs running
-Launch Tux Paint
-Click anywhere in program
-Tux Paint minimizes to Windows taskbar
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Hi, I couldn't reproduce this on either of my Windows 98SE machines.
I've got some questions though :-)
Not seen again until Tux Paint is closed and run again?
Not seen again until Windows is restarted?
Not seen again until Tux Paint is uninstalled and then reinstalled?
This sounds like the desktop is set to 1024x768 and Tux Paint is set
to 1024x768 fullscreen. Is this significant? Does it stop happening if
the desktop is set to a different resolution from Tux Paint?
What is the desktop bit-depth?
I tested with 16-bit colour.
I tried clicking whilst the yellow/black progress-bar is still
displayed, whilst Tux Paint is pausing before going to the main view and
after the main view has appeared. I clicked somewhere near the middle of
the screen.
Can you give a specific example of when and where you click?
Do you move the mouse before you click?
I find it almost impossible to keep the mouse still.
Are you using a mouse, a touch-screen, something else?
How do you launch Tux Paint?
Desktop short-cut, menu item, from a DOS prompt?
Do you, for example, highlight the desktop icon and then use the keyboard to start the program?
Windows 98SE is obsolete and unsupported by MS.
Is your installation an old, updated many times (and then pickled) one like mine or have you freshly installed from a Window-98SE CD for example?
Are your video-drivers up-to date (for W98)?
What video hardware are you using?
I Tested with:
nVidia TNT2 - V4.13.01.3082
S3 Virge - V4.0
Did you download and install the Tux Paint installer or the .zip file or did you build it yourself from source?
Are the Tux Paint Stamps files installed?
Have you got an environment variable set that causes SDL to use DirectX instead of the default GDI drivers? Open a DOS prompt, and type 'set' without the quotes and hit the enter key. Are any lines of text displayed that start SDL_VIDEODRIVER=... ?
What language is Tux Paint set to use?
I used '(Use system's setting)' which I think means en_GB.
Sorry for the number of questions. I'm just trying to dig up a clue that might help reproduce it. If I can't reproduce it, I can't fix it.
Maybe someone else will be able to?
Thanks!
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I hope this helps clarify things. If I've missed anything or you need further please let me know.
Computer is a fresh install of Windows 98SE. No updates have been performed, as Microsoft does not support automatic updates for the OS anymore. The hardware is a stock IBM Netvista 2276-10U with all most recent available drivers downloaded from the IBM site for this model.
Resolution of OS: 1024x768
Color depth: True Color (24 bit)
Using onboard video:
Display adapter: Intel(r) 82810E Graphics Controller
Provider: Intel Corporation
File Version: 4.12.01.2636
Resolution of Tux Paint: 1024x768
Installed using the downloaded installer.
Tux Paint Stamp Files are also installed.
Language=(Use system's setting)
Output of 'set' command:
TMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
PROMPT=$p$g
winbootdir=C:\WINDOWS
PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
COMSPEC=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM
windir=C:\WINDOWS
BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4 P300
Steps:
Boot Windows 98SE to desktop.
Double-click desktop icon for Tux Paint
Let Tux Paint load to the main view. It doesn't matter if the mouse is moved or still during this loading period.
When main view appears, mouse click anywhere. It doesn't matter if you try and click a tool, a brush, or on the canvas (or anywhere for that matter). Tux Paint immediately minimizes to the Windows Task Bar as a task bar button labelled "Tux Paint.
Click the button to maximize Tux Paint, which brings it back up in fullscreen mode.
Now you can work in Tux Paint normally and the program does not minimize to the taskbar again.
If Tux Paint is closed then re-launched by double-clicking the desktop icon, the minimizing behavior is seen again.
Interestingly, launching Tux Paint using the Start->Programs->Tux Paint->Tux Paint(Full Screen) menu item does NOT produce the behavior.
The desktop icon does not have the "--fullscreen" flag, so I suppose it's reading from the configuration file for settings.
I added the "--fullscreen" flag to the desktop shortcut icon, but the minimizing behavior persists. It's as if the program does not have Window focus when launched.
I used the configuration tool to set Tux Paint in Windowed mode (unchecked Fullscreen) and set resolution to 1024x768. When launched, I do NOT see the same behavior.
Repeatable results on the following resolutions:
98: 1024x768, TP: 1024x768
98: 1024x768, TP: 800x600
98: 800x600, TP: 800x600
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Additional:
I found that if I launch from dekstop icon and mouse click anywhere on the screen (fullscreen mode) when the black/yellow bar is visible, Tux Paint loads normally and does not exhibit the minimizing behavior.
If launched from the desktop icon, no mouse movement, then mouse click when the black\yellow bar disappears before main view loads, Tux Paint minimizes.
All control is via mouse, no keyboard or other input device.
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Thanks for your detailed follow-up. I read the bit about it being a fresh install from a Windows 98SE CD and threw up my hands in despair :-)
This is presumably an SDL "problem", but really a consequence of a fresh Windows 98SE install being broken - I can remember a fresh install being a bit "funny" before installing the dozens of updates we had burned onto a CD.
Don't take this the wrong way, but seriously: this is the 21st Century, do yourself a favour and look into installing some (up-to date, but perhaps minimal) version of Linux on the machines instead, and dump Windows-98, it's time has been and gone.
Xubuntu (which uses the XFCE desktop) might be suitable for your hardware, or Kubuntu (as a Windows user, KDE is quite familiar) and the Ubuntu series generally is very friendly to new-comers.
Apologies for not being more helpful regarding your actual problem, but I can't reproduce it here,
best regards,
John.
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Since it sounds like a Win98 issue (not a Tux Paint one), and noone else has reported it, I'm closing this as "Works for me." Thanks for looking into it, guys!