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From: <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-08 16:07:02
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Hi Tuxmath developers, thanks for all the work done so far on tuxmath, a real hit among children I know! I just reported an issue here: https://github.com/tux4kids/tuxmath/issues/11 I'm worried that tuxmath seems largely unmaintained right now. Am I correct? How can we help to find someone to maintain it? I'm copying holger as the current debian package maintainer, in case he may have more information. Thanks a lot in advance! -- Bastien |
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From: Holger L. <ho...@la...> - 2016-04-08 17:23:15
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Hi, On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 06:06:32PM +0200, bz...@gn... wrote: > I'm worried that tuxmath seems largely unmaintained right now. > Am I correct? Not sure. What's certainly missing is / are someone(s) who take the lead in maintaining it. There are often patches and bug reports coming in… You are talking about upstream maintenance, right? Are you willing and able to help? > I'm copying holger as the current debian package maintainer, in > case he may have more information. Even though I'm not super active on the package (and tuxtype) I'd say that it's maintained well in Debian… -- cheers, Holger |
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From: Bastien G. <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-09 07:52:15
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Hi Holger, Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes: > Not sure. What's certainly missing is / are someone(s) who take the lead > in maintaining it. There are often patches and bug reports coming in… > > You are talking about upstream maintenance, right? Yes. I'm talking about having someone (or a team) fixing the current bugs in the code and answering requests on the mailing list. > Are you willing and able to help? I cannot help with the code, but I can help with looking for someone. I'm part of the Sugar community, which uses Tuxmath quite a lot, and I can ask there (and elsewhere): I wanted to make sure nobody would be offended if I look for a new maintainer. >> I'm copying holger as the current debian package maintainer, in >> case he may have more information. > > Even though I'm not super active on the package (and tuxtype) I'd say > that it's maintained well in Debian… Yes! Thanks for this and for your answer. -- Bastien |
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From: Bastien G. <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-11 08:09:32
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Hi Holger, Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes: > you need (to create) an alioth account and then (use its web ui to) apply to > become a member of the tux4kids group. Done. > then, for key handling read https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/SSH Read :) I added my key, so right now I guess I just need to wait for being a member of the project. Thanks! -- Bastien |
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From: Holger L. <ho...@la...> - 2016-04-11 09:05:56
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:09:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > > you need (to create) an alioth account and then (use its web ui to) apply to > > become a member of the tux4kids group. > Done. same here (though it seems someone else was faster, thanks! > > then, for key handling read https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/SSH > Read :) I added my key, so right now I guess I just need to wait for > being a member of the project. yup. just pushing to the website git repo should be enough to update it, iirc. start with small fixes :) -- cheers, Holger |
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From: Bastien G. <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-28 07:37:42
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Hi, Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes: > why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for > the bigger tux4kids project. Indeed, this was implicit in my previous email but I wasn't clear enough and I was not aware of other issues I just discovered. > I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I > *cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and > quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects. My understanding was that Deepak maintains all tux4kids projects but I see now this is wrong. Deepak maintains Tuxmath only. @Deepak, is it so? > And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to > define what tux4kids is. After exploring a bit more, here is how I see it: - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that use the tux- prefix. - Among those softwares, there are two categories: those who are well established and usable: Tuxmath, Tuxpaint, Tuxtype; others are more or less stable, maintained, etc.: tuxhistory (?), Tux4ME, Tuxblocks. I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games): 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org; 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage; 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage; 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?). At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list. >From here: - Tuxpaint seems to be developed rather autonomously, so I won't suggest anything, the button would just lead to tuxpaint.org - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxmath/index.php can be updated, adding Deepak as the maintainer, listing tuxmath-devel@ as the main communication point and the github tuxmath repository as the central place for contributing with code and bug reports. - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/index.php can be cleaned up a bit, advertizing the fact that the project is looking for a maintainer--I assume it is. - A new page for other tux- softwares would just list them, maybe with the name of a maintainer if there is one, deferring communication to the github repositories. > And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this list > then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name…! Would tux4kids-discuss@ be okay? > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-) Here is one: 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*. 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer. 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the central place for discussing among developers, contributors and users from all Tuxy- projects. 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the central place for Tuxmath development. 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website. 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure. If that's OK, from there we can move forward: - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github. - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories. - ... Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think! Thanks again for your feedback, -- Bastien |
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From: Holger L. <ho...@la...> - 2016-04-28 13:03:57
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Hi Bastien, thanks for this updated proposal! On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four > "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games): > > 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org; > 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage; > 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage; > 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?). > > At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list. I like this simple setup. (I also like the name 'Tux4Kids "lab"' for projects which are not that advanced yet. Are we missing some, btw? :) > > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm > > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-) I like the plan… > Here is one: > > 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*. > > 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer. > > 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the > central place for discussing among developers, contributors and > users from all Tuxy- projects. just we dont have this list yet… I assume I should make you admin on the alioth project, Bastien, so you can create it? (I'm happy to help with mail moderation, do "apt show listadmin" if you don't know listadmin.) > 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath > Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the > central place for Tuxmath development. > > 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on > alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on > alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives > on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website. > > 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure. > > If that's OK, from there we can move forward: > > - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github. > - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories. > - ... > > Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think! I like these kind of lists here. > Thanks again for your feedback, likewise! :) -- cheers, Holger |
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From: Pere P. i C. <per...@gm...> - 2016-04-28 20:34:33
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El dj 28 de 04 de 2016 a les 15:03 +0200, en/na Holger Levsen va escriure: > Hi Bastien, > > thanks for this updated proposal! > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > > > > I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four > > "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games): > > > > 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org; > > 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage; > > 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage; > > 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?). > > Some of the "lab" projects could play in the browser, maybe it is worth to host too the playable ones there > > At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list. > > I like this simple setup. (I also like the name 'Tux4Kids "lab"' for > projects which are not that advanced yet. Are we missing some, btw? > :) As far as I recall, starting on 2012, in plus of contributions to Tux Paint / Tuxmath / Tuxtype, there have been new projects every GSoC tux4kids has participated 2012 tuxracing by Kento Locatelly, tuxmathmobile by Deepak 2013 tuxblocks by Thomas Price, tuxcoding by AbdelHakim Deneche 2015 tux4eng by Divya Nagar, tux4words by Natalia Jastrzębska, tux4me by Vignesh Sekar I think that's all, the sources for tuxracing used to be somewhere on github, but I can't find them anymore there, just in case, I have a copy downloaded directly from Melange, without any further modifications/contributions > > > > > > > > > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. > > > I'm > > > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-) > I like the plan… > > > > > Here is one: > > > > 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*. > > > > 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer. > > > > 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the > > central place for discussing among developers, contributors and > > users from all Tuxy- projects. > just we dont have this list yet… I assume I should make you admin on > the > alioth project, Bastien, so you can create it? (I'm happy to help > with > mail moderation, do "apt show listadmin" if you don't know > listadmin.) > > > > > 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the > > Tuxmath > > Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is > > the > > central place for Tuxmath development. > > > > 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also > > on > > alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync > > on > > alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories > > lives > > on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website. > > > > 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure. > > > > If that's OK, from there we can move forward: > > > > - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github. > > - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories. I'd better put a call for developers in the Readme page of each abandonware project, with a bit of luck somebody will step in. > > - ... > > > > Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think! > I like these kind of lists here. > > > > > Thanks again for your feedback, > likewise! :) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications > Manager > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple > tiers of > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly > and > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z > _______________________________________________ > Tuxmath-devel mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel |
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From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2016-04-29 17:40:41
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Adding tuxpaint-devel list to the Cc's. On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > Hi, > > Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes: > > > why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for > > the bigger tux4kids project. > > Indeed, this was implicit in my previous email but I wasn't clear > enough and I was not aware of other issues I just discovered. > > > I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I > > *cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and > > quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects. > > My understanding was that Deepak maintains all tux4kids projects but I > see now this is wrong. > > Deepak maintains Tuxmath only. > > @Deepak, is it so? > > > And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to > > define what tux4kids is. > > After exploring a bit more, here is how I see it: > > - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that > use the tux- prefix. > > - Among those softwares, there are two categories: those who are well > established and usable: Tuxmath, Tuxpaint, Tuxtype; others are more > or less stable, maintained, etc.: tuxhistory (?), Tux4ME, Tuxblocks. > > I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four > "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games): > > 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org; > 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage; > 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage; > 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?). > > At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list. > > From here: > > - Tuxpaint seems to be developed rather autonomously, so I won't > suggest anything, the button would just lead to tuxpaint.org Correct, Tux Paint is currently maintained: Website: http://tuxpaint.org/ Lists: * Dev discussions: * Code: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-devel * i18n: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-i18n * Art: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps * Docs: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-docs * User discussion: * http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users * Announcements (non-discussion): * http://tuxpaint.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuxpaint-news Files & code repo: * SF project: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/ * Builds/etc: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/files/ * CVS repo: http://tuxpaint.cvs.sourceforge.net/tuxpaint/ Maintainers: * Me (Bill Kendrick, bi...@ne... / nb...@so...) * Others (Pere Pujal & others have been helping a lot) I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly moving away from SF.net. I should probably catch up and participate in those :) -bill! > > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxmath/index.php can be updated, > adding Deepak as the maintainer, listing tuxmath-devel@ as the main > communication point and the github tuxmath repository as the central > place for contributing with code and bug reports. > > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/index.php can be cleaned > up a bit, advertizing the fact that the project is looking for a > maintainer--I assume it is. > > - A new page for other tux- softwares would just list them, maybe with > the name of a maintainer if there is one, deferring communication to > the github repositories. > > > And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this list > > then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name???! > > Would tux4kids-discuss@ be okay? > > > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm > > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-) > > Here is one: > > 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*. > > 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer. > > 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the > central place for discussing among developers, contributors and > users from all Tuxy- projects. > > 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath > Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the > central place for Tuxmath development. > > 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on > alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on > alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives > on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website. > > 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure. > > If that's OK, from there we can move forward: > > - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github. > - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories. > - ... > > Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think! > > Thanks again for your feedback, > > -- > Bastien > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z > _______________________________________________ > Tuxmath-devel mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel > -- -bill! Sent from my computer |
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From: Bastien G. <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-30 09:18:46
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Hi Bill, glad to read you! Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> writes: > I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have > been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly > moving away from SF.net. I should probably catch up and > participate in those :) Sure, let us know how it goes. Good luck! -- Bastien |
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From: deepak a. <dee...@gm...> - 2016-04-29 20:30:58
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Hi Guys I have cloned/moved most of the repos that contains new projects. Repos which are still missing 1. Tuxracing 2. Tux4eng 3. Tux4words: I have already dropped an email to Natalia so that she can transfer ownership to us. I have also roped in Nalin (2013 GSOC student) as a backup maintainer for us. @Pere : It would be great if you can email me code directly so that I can create a new repo for them. ᐧ On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote: > > Adding tuxpaint-devel list to the Cc's. > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes: > > > > > why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for > > > the bigger tux4kids project. > > > > Indeed, this was implicit in my previous email but I wasn't clear > > enough and I was not aware of other issues I just discovered. > > > > > I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I > > > *cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and > > > quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects. > > > > My understanding was that Deepak maintains all tux4kids projects but I > > see now this is wrong. > > > > Deepak maintains Tuxmath only. > > > > @Deepak, is it so? > > > > > And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to > > > define what tux4kids is. > > > > After exploring a bit more, here is how I see it: > > > > - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that > > use the tux- prefix. > > > > - Among those softwares, there are two categories: those who are well > > established and usable: Tuxmath, Tuxpaint, Tuxtype; others are more > > or less stable, maintained, etc.: tuxhistory (?), Tux4ME, Tuxblocks. > > > > I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four > > "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games): > > > > 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org; > > 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage; > > 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage; > > 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?). > > > > At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list. > > > > From here: > > > > - Tuxpaint seems to be developed rather autonomously, so I won't > > suggest anything, the button would just lead to tuxpaint.org > > Correct, Tux Paint is currently maintained: > > Website: http://tuxpaint.org/ > > Lists: > * Dev discussions: > * Code: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-devel > * i18n: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-i18n > * Art: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps > * Docs: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-docs > * User discussion: > * http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users > * Announcements (non-discussion): > * http://tuxpaint.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuxpaint-news > > Files & code repo: > * SF project: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/ > * Builds/etc: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/files/ > * CVS repo: http://tuxpaint.cvs.sourceforge.net/tuxpaint/ > > Maintainers: > * Me (Bill Kendrick, bi...@ne... / nb...@so...) > * Others (Pere Pujal & others have been helping a lot) > > I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have > been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly > moving away from SF.net. I should probably catch up and > participate in those :) > > > -bill! > > > > > > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxmath/index.php can be updated, > > adding Deepak as the maintainer, listing tuxmath-devel@ as the main > > communication point and the github tuxmath repository as the central > > place for contributing with code and bug reports. > > > > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/index.php can be cleaned > > up a bit, advertizing the fact that the project is looking for a > > maintainer--I assume it is. > > > > - A new page for other tux- softwares would just list them, maybe with > > the name of a maintainer if there is one, deferring communication to > > the github repositories. > > > > > And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this list > > > then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name???! > > > > Would tux4kids-discuss@ be okay? > > > > > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm > > > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-) > > > > Here is one: > > > > 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*. > > > > 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer. > > > > 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the > > central place for discussing among developers, contributors and > > users from all Tuxy- projects. > > > > 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath > > Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the > > central place for Tuxmath development. > > > > 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on > > alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on > > alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives > > on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website. > > > > 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure. > > > > If that's OK, from there we can move forward: > > > > - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github. > > - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories. > > - ... > > > > Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think! > > > > Thanks again for your feedback, > > > > -- > > Bastien > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications > Manager > > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple > tiers of > > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and > > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! > > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z > > _______________________________________________ > > Tuxmath-devel mailing list > > Tux...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel > > > > -- > -bill! > Sent from my computer > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications > Manager > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple > tiers of > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z > _______________________________________________ > Tuxmath-devel mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel > |
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From: B L. <che...@gm...> - 2016-04-30 01:39:52
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Hey all. I still have a clone of the TuxRacing repo but it's not up to
date. I'm not sure how it compares to what's on melange. The final commit
is from mid-July 2012.
Author: klocatelli <me...@kl...>
Date: Thu Jul 19 20:54:31 2012 -0700
Feedback release version
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 1:30 PM, deepak aggarwal <dee...@gm...
> wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I have cloned/moved most of the repos that contains new projects.
> Repos which are still missing
> 1. Tuxracing
> 2. Tux4eng
> 3. Tux4words: I have already dropped an email to Natalia so that she
> can transfer ownership to us.
>
> I have also roped in Nalin (2013 GSOC student) as a backup maintainer for
> us.
>
> @Pere : It would be great if you can email me code directly so that I can
> create a new repo for them.
>
> ᐧ
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Adding tuxpaint-devel list to the Cc's.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes:
>> >
>> > > why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for
>> > > the bigger tux4kids project.
>> >
>> > Indeed, this was implicit in my previous email but I wasn't clear
>> > enough and I was not aware of other issues I just discovered.
>> >
>> > > I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I
>> > > *cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and
>> > > quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects.
>> >
>> > My understanding was that Deepak maintains all tux4kids projects but I
>> > see now this is wrong.
>> >
>> > Deepak maintains Tuxmath only.
>> >
>> > @Deepak, is it so?
>> >
>> > > And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to
>> > > define what tux4kids is.
>> >
>> > After exploring a bit more, here is how I see it:
>> >
>> > - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that
>> > use the tux- prefix.
>> >
>> > - Among those softwares, there are two categories: those who are well
>> > established and usable: Tuxmath, Tuxpaint, Tuxtype; others are more
>> > or less stable, maintained, etc.: tuxhistory (?), Tux4ME, Tuxblocks.
>> >
>> > I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four
>> > "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games):
>> >
>> > 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org;
>> > 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage;
>> > 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage;
>> > 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?).
>> >
>> > At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list.
>> >
>> > From here:
>> >
>> > - Tuxpaint seems to be developed rather autonomously, so I won't
>> > suggest anything, the button would just lead to tuxpaint.org
>>
>> Correct, Tux Paint is currently maintained:
>>
>> Website: http://tuxpaint.org/
>>
>> Lists:
>> * Dev discussions:
>> * Code: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-devel
>> * i18n: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-i18n
>> * Art: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps
>> * Docs: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-docs
>> * User discussion:
>> * http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users
>> * Announcements (non-discussion):
>> * http://tuxpaint.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuxpaint-news
>>
>> Files & code repo:
>> * SF project: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/
>> * Builds/etc: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/files/
>> * CVS repo: http://tuxpaint.cvs.sourceforge.net/tuxpaint/
>>
>> Maintainers:
>> * Me (Bill Kendrick, bi...@ne... / nb...@so...)
>> * Others (Pere Pujal & others have been helping a lot)
>>
>> I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have
>> been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly
>> moving away from SF.net. I should probably catch up and
>> participate in those :)
>>
>>
>> -bill!
>>
>>
>> >
>> > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxmath/index.php can be updated,
>> > adding Deepak as the maintainer, listing tuxmath-devel@ as the main
>> > communication point and the github tuxmath repository as the central
>> > place for contributing with code and bug reports.
>> >
>> > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/index.php can be cleaned
>> > up a bit, advertizing the fact that the project is looking for a
>> > maintainer--I assume it is.
>> >
>> > - A new page for other tux- softwares would just list them, maybe with
>> > the name of a maintainer if there is one, deferring communication to
>> > the github repositories.
>> >
>> > > And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this
>> list
>> > > then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name???!
>> >
>> > Would tux4kids-discuss@ be okay?
>> >
>> > > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm
>> > > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-)
>> >
>> > Here is one:
>> >
>> > 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*.
>> >
>> > 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer.
>> >
>> > 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the
>> > central place for discussing among developers, contributors and
>> > users from all Tuxy- projects.
>> >
>> > 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath
>> > Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the
>> > central place for Tuxmath development.
>> >
>> > 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on
>> > alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on
>> > alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives
>> > on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website.
>> >
>> > 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure.
>> >
>> > If that's OK, from there we can move forward:
>> >
>> > - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github.
>> > - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories.
>> > - ...
>> >
>> > Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think!
>> >
>> > Thanks again for your feedback,
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bastien
>> >
>> >
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>>
>> --
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From: Albert C. <aca...@gm...> - 2016-06-08 18:26:43
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>> - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that >> use the tux- prefix. I don't see the point of tux4kids. The projects are distinct. > I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have > been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly > moving away from SF.net. I should probably catch up and > participate in those :) Whatever you do, stay away from github. 1. Linus Torvalds had a great rant about it. 2. See also "pull requests considered harmful". 3. I think github is not long for this world. A couple years ago, I would have thought sf.net to be in more trouble, but times have changed. There was a buyout of sf.org that is helping. Meanwhile, there is serious management turnover and self-destruction at github. Don't go there. I think sf.org is fine, and CVS too. There are alternatives to github in case you really want to leave sf.org behind. |
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From: Luc S. <be...@gm...> - 2016-06-09 15:24:32
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Already had some talks with Scott with trying to get the tux4kids programs working again under Haiku, will keep an eye open on the development! :) Greetings, Luc Schrijvers aka Begasus 2016-06-08 20:26 GMT+02:00 Albert Cahalan <aca...@gm...>: > >> - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that > >> use the tux- prefix. > > I don't see the point of tux4kids. The projects are distinct. > > > I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have > > been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly > > moving away from SF.net. I should probably catch up and > > participate in those :) > > Whatever you do, stay away from github. > > 1. Linus Torvalds had a great rant about it. > 2. See also "pull requests considered harmful". > 3. I think github is not long for this world. > > A couple years ago, I would have thought sf.net to be in more trouble, > but times have changed. There was a buyout of sf.org that is helping. > Meanwhile, there is serious management turnover and self-destruction > at github. Don't go there. I think sf.org is fine, and CVS too. There are > alternatives to github in case you really want to leave sf.org behind. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and > traffic > patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols > are > consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, > J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity > planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e > _______________________________________________ > Tuxmath-devel mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel > |
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From: Bastien G. <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-12 12:44:03
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Hi Holger, Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:09:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: >> > you need (to create) an alioth account and then (use its web ui to) apply to >> > become a member of the tux4kids group. >> Done. > > same here (though it seems someone else was faster, thanks! On alioth, the "source" page for tux4kids suggests that I can clone these two repositories: git clone https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/tux4kids/tux4kids.git git clone git+ssh://bzg...@sc...//git/tux4kids/tux4kids.git both it doesn't work for me. The first one seems empty. The second one throws this error: Permission denied (publickey). fatal: Could not read from remote repository. I was expecting this to work: git clone git+ssh://bzg...@gi.../git/tux4kids/tux4kids-web.git as suggested on https://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/git.php But it throws the same error, as if my ssh access was not correct or as if my permissions were not set for the repos. My public key is stored correctly on alioth and ~/.ssh/config (0600) looks like this: Host svn.debian.org git.debian.org bzr.debian.org hg.debian.org darcs.debian.org arch.debian.org alioth.debian.org User bzg-guest Is there anything else I can check on my side? Can it be because my public key uses DSA instead of RSA? Thanks for any hint! -- Bastien |
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From: Bastien G. <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-14 08:22:33
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Hi Holger, Bastien Guerry <bz...@gn...> writes: > On alioth, the "source" page for tux4kids suggests that I can clone > these two repositories: > > git clone https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/tux4kids/tux4kids.git > git clone git+ssh://bzg...@sc...//git/tux4kids/tux4kids.git > > both it doesn't work for me. Any idea on what's wrong? My guess is that I've been approved for only a limited set of projects on alioth, but I'm not sure. Let me know what other information I can provide to fix this. Thanks! -- Bastien |
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From: Holger L. <ho...@la...> - 2016-04-15 19:06:26
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n Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:22:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > Any idea on what's wrong? My guess is that I've been approved for > only a limited set of projects on alioth, but I'm not sure. > > Let me know what other information I can provide to fix this. does "ssh git.debian.org" work? or only "ssh bas...@de..."? (or whatever your login is…) once you're logged in, run "id" to see the groups you're a member of. but it bet it's the ssh login… ssh -v git.debian.org might also help :) -- cheers, Holger |
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From: Bastien G. <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-30 09:20:27
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Hi Deepak, deepak aggarwal <dee...@gm...> writes: > I have also roped in Nalin (2013 GSOC student) as a backup maintainer > for us. Great -- can you give me informations about him (first name, last name, email) so I can advertize his commitment on the website? Also make sure he reads tux4kids-discuss@. Thanks! -- Bastien |
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From: Holger L. <ho...@la...> - 2016-04-30 09:32:10
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On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:19:12AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > Also make sure he reads tux4kids-discuss@. can we shift this thread over there, maybe? do *we* all read that list? someone please start a new thread there ;) -- cheers, Holger |
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From: scottmc <sco...@gm...> - 2016-06-08 17:18:20
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Moving this over to tux4kids-discuss list. We now the Tux4Kids github site up and running and have cloned most of the repositories over to it. We have now started adding more team members. If you are interested in being a team member or stepping up to be a maintainer for any of programs, let us know. Once we have the maintainers in place we should be better able to handle Pull Requests and new issue reports. We have a few of the students who applied to work with Tux4Kids for Google Summer of Code express interest in working on their proposed projects outside of GSoC. We have asked them to join the tux4kids-discuss mailing list and to ask questions here if they needed any help. Feel free to look at their code and give them feedback. Hopefully some of them will post some write-ups here on their progress. When replying to this post, please just reply to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list. Trying to get everyone to move this conversaion over to it. -Scott On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:19:12AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > > Also make sure he reads tux4kids-discuss@. > > can we shift this thread over there, maybe? do *we* all read that list? > > someone please start a new thread there ;) > > |
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From: Fòram na G. <fi...@fo...> - 2016-06-10 10:27:17
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Should the dfollowing string be updated now? src/menu.c:217 TuxMath version %s is free and open-source! You can help make it better. Suggestions, artwork, and code are all welcome! Discuss TuxMath at tux...@li... I recommend using an sprintf placeholder for the name of the mailing list, so this string won't need retranslation if the list should change again in the future. |
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From: Bastien G. <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-28 16:24:21
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Hi Holger, glad you seem okay with the plan :) @Deepak, let us know what you think! Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes: > just we dont have this list yet… I was referring to this list: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/tux4kids-discuss are do I miss something? -- Bastien |
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From: Holger L. <ho...@la...> - 2016-04-28 16:29:35
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 06:23:52PM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > I was referring to this list: > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/tux4kids-discuss right. thats perfect. > are do I miss something? no :) -- cheers, Holger |
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From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2016-04-13 01:51:13
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Hi all - I would be *very* happy to know that tuxmath and tuxtype will be maintained again. I worked on them for quite some time, but I got out of the loop as my professional and personal time got taken up by other things. Best wishes - David On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Bastien Guerry <bz...@gn...> wrote: > Hi Holger, > > Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes: > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:09:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote: > >> > you need (to create) an alioth account and then (use its web ui to) > apply to > >> > become a member of the tux4kids group. > >> Done. > > > > same here (though it seems someone else was faster, thanks! > > On alioth, the "source" page for tux4kids suggests that I can clone > these two repositories: > > git clone https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/tux4kids/tux4kids.git > git clone git+ssh:// > bzg...@sc...//git/tux4kids/tux4kids.git > > both it doesn't work for me. > > The first one seems empty. > > The second one throws this error: > > Permission denied (publickey). > fatal: Could not read from remote repository. > > I was expecting this to work: > > git clone git+ssh://bzg...@gi.../git/tux4kids/tux4kids-web.git > > as suggested on https://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/git.php > > But it throws the same error, as if my ssh access was not correct or > as if my permissions were not set for the repos. > > My public key is stored correctly on alioth and ~/.ssh/config (0600) > looks like this: > > Host svn.debian.org git.debian.org bzr.debian.org hg.debian.org > darcs.debian.org arch.debian.org alioth.debian.org > User bzg-guest > > Is there anything else I can check on my side? Can it be because my > public key uses DSA instead of RSA? > > Thanks for any hint! > > -- > Bastien > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications > Manager > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple > tiers of > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z > _______________________________________________ > Tuxmath-devel mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel > -- David Bruce For all your software needs, visit The Apt Store: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main |
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From: Bastien G. <bz...@gn...> - 2016-04-13 04:33:07
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Hi David, thanks *very much* for what you did so far! It helped many kids and teacher around the world. And I perfectly understand how time can be eaten up by other things. I hope Laura can reply and take over maintainance while sharing her fixes, and I'd be glad to help maintain the website once my write access is set up. Thanks! -- Bastien |
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