Re: [TuxKart-devel] Re: [Tuxkart-cvs] tuxkart/src Driver.h,1.14,1.15 joystick.h,1.3,1.4 PlayerDriver.cxx,1.12,1.13 sdldrv.cxx,1.16,1.17 sdldrv.h,1.6,1.7

[Charles G. <ch...@ve...>]

Steve Baker wrote:

> I've tried to do that - but nobody wants to listen to what I have to say
> so it's just easier to let you guys bulldoze ahead and then clean up 
> whatever
> mess is left at the end.


You mean nobody submitted to your whim... everybody was listening except 
you.

>> No offense Steve, but since GotM started you have done jack all.
>
>
> That's not true.  I added the multi-view stuff and did a ton of code
> cleanup.   Recently, I've not wanted to get involved because I'd be
> spending all my time undoing what people have screwed up - that would
> lead to interminable arguments which I really don't have the patience
> for - so I'd prefer to duck out until the chaos dies down and restore
> sanity at the end.


So where is the multi-view stuff?  We have people talking about 
implementing it (again it seems) yet there is no obvious point where you 
have already done the work.

The only visible work you have done during GotM is to add people as 
developers to the sf.net tuxkart project.

> The whole full screen business is a really trivial matter - if the PLIB
> windowing library can't do it then let's make it do it


Ruh-EALLY.  We are WAITING.  You simply ignored all messages to the list 
on this matter thus far.  For you to turn around and say "make PLIB do 
it" is a bit rich.  Why haven't you started already?  Or are we the 
bitches who must do the master's bidding?  (That's quite ironic given 
that I've contributed as much as you to this GotM, mostly noise.)

> What's actually happened is that you've ended up attempting to do 
> virtually
> a top to bottom rewrite with all new models, new libraries, new GUI - 
> the whole
> works.  You are dinking unnecessarily with things that are really 
> working just
> fine.


What's happened is that you've proved relatively DIFFICULT to work with 
thus far.  Nobody is try to cause problems, they're just trying to 
help.  But where is the maintainer?  Not maintaining, just complaining.

Another irony is that you asked for it all to be "rewritten" except for 
one thing; the GUI.

> Frankly, it would have been easier for you to start afresh with a 
> completely
> new game...but that would be ridiculous because you KNOW you can't 
> write a
> complete new game in two months.


*snore*

> The GoTM concept is a good one - but failing to stay focussed on what was
> the original scope of the work is what undoubtedly lead to your failure
> to complete Pingus - and with only a few weeks to run, the same will
> happen with TuxKart. 


*snore*

When GotM is over, I suspect an apology from you will be the order of 
the day.

- Charlie