Re: [TuxKart-devel] Some notes

[James G. <jam...@bt...>]

On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 01:01, Charles Goodwin wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 18:21 -0500, Steve Baker wrote:
> > James Gregory wrote:
> > 
> > > 3. there's no chance it will compile now as I don't know how to change
> > > the autoconf stuff to make it make a makefile that includes my new
> > > files. It also now needs to link to SDLimage and SDL_ttf
> > 
> > Guys I do not want dependancies on anything outside of PLIB.
> > 
> > If you add that shit - I'll just take it right out again when GOTM
> > goes away.
> 
> That was a strong word (the s... one).
> 
> Anyway, AFAIK it's all being done with IFDEFS for the moment.  If you
> can maintain the PLIB side of those IFDEFS then everybody will be happy.
> The problem is that PLIB doesn't seem to handle things in the way people
> want/expect and asking questions via the mailing list is just an
> abysmally slow way to progress when you have lots of questions.
> 
> (Perhaps if you hung out on irc just once or twice?)
> 
> I don't know the specifics other than fullscreen mode that was, erm,
> declined more than answered (ie. "go with a borderless window") so it
> would be useful if James or somebody could go over the various issues
> that SDL is currently being used to solve.
> 
> I'm pretty certain everybody would be happy to use PLIB only if they
> knew how to, and that SDL can be considered a stop-gap solution until
> the PLIB aspect is put in, but it's currently needed to aid progress.
> 
> At least, that's my take on it.

No, it will not longer compile without SDL, whatever IFDEFS you use.

Steve, it's your CVS, so take it out if you want. Alternatively, I've
got lots of free time right now, so if you want I can download the
pre-GOTM version and commit it for you.

However, I don't think many people will want to work on it as the GOTM
project if we can only use PLIB. Maybe it would be worth doing a GOTM
fork? Or maybe not. What do other people think?

As for the issues with not using SDL:

1. No fullscreen mode
2. GUI-wise being limited to using what plib provides
3. Being limited in terms of file formats to what plib provides (e.g. no
use of png, no use of physfs)
4. Far more people know how to program using SDL and its sister
libraries than know how to use plib
5. Everyone who ever compiles games already has SDL, SDL_image etc in
any case

	James