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[Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff

[Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...>]

Thanks for volunteering to help out the trouble-maker project.  I know that
all of you have differing levels of both commitment and skill levels with
Linux.  I'm fine with that, as any attention at all will be more progress
than the project has had in recent years.

I created trouble-maker to help me get my RHCE.  In a nutshell, it's an
application that randomly breaks a system so you get the fun of fixing it!
I believe that the engine is solid, but I need help writing/adjusting
scripts to both break a system and test that it's been repaired correctly.
I learned a lot about Linux building the original project, both on RHEL and
SLES.  Based on this, I expect that anyone who works on it will learn a lot
about the distro of their choice... That said, at this time, RHEL is still
the most popular platform for the project, as it's directly relatable to the
RHCE.

It's going to be a bit of time before I can start any training sessions, but
the ultimate goal here for me is to get an updated project and hold regular
(monthly?) "classes" about Linux administration.  This will be a good way to
build Linux experience, both from the admin side (fixing a broken system)
and scripting (building out the project).

To start, we'll need to leverage virtualization or have dedicated test
hardware.  My personal preference is for vmware-server, as it's free and
works pretty well.  However, things should work fine with others like KVM or
VirtualBox.

Based on the list discussion, it seems Ubuntu and RHEL are the most useful.
So for the next few weeks, let's just get some machines built.  If you want
to get experience with RHEL, just build a CentOS VM.  If you run into
issues, just ask for help on this list.  I may be hard to get ahold of for
the next few weeks due to existing projects, so I'm not really looking for
this to really kick off until mid March.

I will, however, be paying attention for the next several days, so if you
have any questions, now is the time and here is the place.

Thanks again,

-Josh More

Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff

[Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...>]

Anything in particular we will be breaking?  Should we be installing LAMP
type things, or just a standard desktop environment?

 

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From: Developers list for trouble-maker
[mailto:tro...@li...] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:27 PM
To: tro...@li...
Subject: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff

 

Thanks for volunteering to help out the trouble-maker project.  I know that
all of you have differing levels of both commitment and skill levels with
Linux.  I'm fine with that, as any attention at all will be more progress
than the project has had in recent years.

I created trouble-maker to help me get my RHCE.  In a nutshell, it's an
application that randomly breaks a system so you get the fun of fixing it!
I believe that the engine is solid, but I need help writing/adjusting
scripts to both break a system and test that it's been repaired correctly.
I learned a lot about Linux building the original project, both on RHEL and
SLES.  Based on this, I expect that anyone who works on it will learn a lot
about the distro of their choice... That said, at this time, RHEL is still
the most popular platform for the project, as it's directly relatable to the
RHCE.

It's going to be a bit of time before I can start any training sessions, but
the ultimate goal here for me is to get an updated project and hold regular
(monthly?) "classes" about Linux administration.  This will be a good way to
build Linux experience, both from the admin side (fixing a broken system)
and scripting (building out the project).

To start, we'll need to leverage virtualization or have dedicated test
hardware.  My personal preference is for vmware-server, as it's free and
works pretty well.  However, things should work fine with others like KVM or
VirtualBox.

Based on the list discussion, it seems Ubuntu and RHEL are the most useful.
So for the next few weeks, let's just get some machines built.  If you want
to get experience with RHEL, just build a CentOS VM.  If you run into
issues, just ask for help on this list.  I may be hard to get ahold of for
the next few weeks due to existing projects, so I'm not really looking for
this to really kick off until mid March.

I will, however, be paying attention for the next several days, so if you
have any questions, now is the time and here is the place.

Thanks again,

-Josh More

Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff

[Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...>]

Top priority, I think, is to run through the RHCE list of breakables and
tasks.

So, to start, we'll be looking at things like:

* Basic networking
* Partition creation and expansion (RAID, LVM and regular)
* Apache
* VSFTPD
* NFS
* GRUB
* PAM
* Quotas
* CUPS
* Postfix
* Squid
* Samba
* Bind
* Dovecot
* Sendmail
* DHCP
* Xorg
* SELinux

If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux, I
recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via
Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot.

-Josh



On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Developers list for trouble-maker <
tro...@li...> wrote:

>  Anything in particular we will be breaking?  Should we be installing LAMP
> type things, or just a standard desktop environment?
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Developers list for trouble-maker [mailto:
> tro...@li...]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:27 PM
> *To:* tro...@li...
> *Subject:* [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff
>
>
>
> Thanks for volunteering to help out the trouble-maker project.  I know that
> all of you have differing levels of both commitment and skill levels with
> Linux.  I'm fine with that, as any attention at all will be more progress
> than the project has had in recent years.
>
> I created trouble-maker to help me get my RHCE.  In a nutshell, it's an
> application that randomly breaks a system so you get the fun of fixing it!
> I believe that the engine is solid, but I need help writing/adjusting
> scripts to both break a system and test that it's been repaired correctly.
> I learned a lot about Linux building the original project, both on RHEL and
> SLES.  Based on this, I expect that anyone who works on it will learn a lot
> about the distro of their choice... That said, at this time, RHEL is still
> the most popular platform for the project, as it's directly relatable to the
> RHCE.
>
> It's going to be a bit of time before I can start any training sessions,
> but the ultimate goal here for me is to get an updated project and hold
> regular (monthly?) "classes" about Linux administration.  This will be a
> good way to build Linux experience, both from the admin side (fixing a
> broken system) and scripting (building out the project).
>
> To start, we'll need to leverage virtualization or have dedicated test
> hardware.  My personal preference is for vmware-server, as it's free and
> works pretty well.  However, things should work fine with others like KVM or
> VirtualBox.
>
> Based on the list discussion, it seems Ubuntu and RHEL are the most
> useful.  So for the next few weeks, let's just get some machines built.  If
> you want to get experience with RHEL, just build a CentOS VM.  If you run
> into issues, just ask for help on this list.  I may be hard to get ahold of
> for the next few weeks due to existing projects, so I'm not really looking
> for this to really kick off until mid March.
>
> I will, however, be paying attention for the next several days, so if you
> have any questions, now is the time and here is the place.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> -Josh More
>
>
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Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff

[Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...>]

> If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux, I
> recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via
> Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot.
>
> -Josh
>

And....nope...lost.  This might be a good place to start.  Sounds like
something I want know know how to do!

Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff

[Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...>]

OK.  If you have any available money, I recommend that you pick up Jang's
RHCE guide.
http://www.amazon.com/Certified-Engineer-Linux-Study-Certification/dp/0072264543/ref=sr_1_1

It goes into detail on a lot of this stuff, and if you learn well from
books, it's well worth your time.

Basically, though, you start with a CentOS 5 installation and turn on NFS.
Then, later, when you want to install another system, you choose to do an
"NFS" install and point the new system to your existing NFS server.  That
installs Linux over the wire, and you don't have to deal with CDs or DVDs.
This is how a lot of big businesses do it.

The "Kickstart" bit is basically a configuration file that tells the
installing system what to install.  It's what RedHat uses for their
installations, but if you modify it, you get more options than "server" and
"workstation".  You can have a script that makes a fully functional email
server and the like.  It can attended or unattended.

Other distros have similar functionality, but for now, I'd like to focus on
the RedHat world, as that is the best cert to get to prove competance to
hiring companies.

-Josh

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Developers list for trouble-maker <
tro...@li...> wrote:

>
> If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux, I
>> recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via
>> Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot.
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>
> And....nope...lost.  This might be a good place to start.  Sounds like
> something I want know know how to do!
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
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Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff

[Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...>]

I've noticed that this list doesn't show who the emails originate from either. Thats gonna be awfully confusing!


-----Original Message-----
From: Developers list for trouble-maker [mailto:tro...@li...]
Sent: Thu 2/25/2010 12:47 PM
To: Developers list for trouble-maker
Subject: Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff
 
> If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux, I
> recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via
> Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot.
>
> -Josh
>

And....nope...lost.  This might be a good place to start.  Sounds like
something I want know know how to do!

Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff

[Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...>]

Yeah.  I'm working on it.

That's also why I'm signing my emails.

-Josh

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Developers list for trouble-maker <
tro...@li...> wrote:

> I've noticed that this list doesn't show who the emails originate from
> either. Thats gonna be awfully confusing!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Developers list for trouble-maker [mailto:
> tro...@li...]
> Sent: Thu 2/25/2010 12:47 PM
> To: Developers list for trouble-maker
> Subject: Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff
>
> > If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux,
> I
> > recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via
> > Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot.
> >
> > -Josh
> >
>
> And....nope...lost.  This might be a good place to start.  Sounds like
> something I want know know how to do!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> _______________________________________________
> Trouble-maker-developers mailing list
> Tro...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trouble-maker-developers
>
>