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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-04-20 19:16:41
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On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Developers list for trouble-maker <tro...@li...> wrote: > This is a reminder for those of us in the same city, that we're having the > kickoff meeting for TroubleMaker this Wednesday at 6:00 PM at Alliance > Technologies (400 Locust St. downtown Des Moines). I have school on Wednesday evenings, so I won't make it. But I'd truly appreciate a summary follow up to the list about how it goes. -- Todd |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-04-20 02:32:31
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This is a reminder for those of us in the same city, that we're having the kickoff meeting for TroubleMaker this Wednesday at 6:00 PM at Alliance Technologies (400 Locust St. downtown Des Moines). The purpose of this meeting will be to introduce the design of the system and identify key tasks. For those working on Red Hat certification, we can also talk about study tips and how to use TroubleMaker to help achieve that goal. After this meeting, we will start moving forward on creating and testing trouble scripts. For those not in the same city, if you have any particular interests in Linux or things you particularly want to break, simply reply to this email and we'll keep that in mind as we create tasks on Wednesday. Directions follow: 1. Park at the ramp at 4th and Grand, or drive around and find a spot on the street. (ramp parking costs $, street parking is free after 6). 2. Come into the capital square building and take the escalator to the 2nd floor. (If you come in via the skywalk, you will already be on the second floor.) 3. Walk around to where the elevators are, sign in, and take an elevator to the 8th floor. 4. Walk towards the near wall, turn left and cross the little bridge. (The big bridge is the wrong way). 5. Take the first left after you exit the small bridge. Do not turn left until after you have crossed the bridge. We are in a conference room on the left, after you pass several rooms and cubes. Generally, you can just follow the noise. If you get lost, call Josh More at: 515-245-7701 |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-04-13 17:15:39
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If you're uncertain, then yes, start with CentOS 5. It's not the best for daily use, but I feel that it IS the best for learning how basic Linux systems work. -Josh On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Developers list for trouble-maker < tro...@li...> wrote: > Well, I haven't specifically built a test box, but I did build 4 Ubuntu > boxes for Spam filtering. > > > > I'm still trying to decide what OS is going to suit me best. I'm thinking > CentOS, but haven't totally decided. Any suggestions? > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Developers list for trouble-maker [mailto: > tro...@li...] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:13 AM > *To:* Developers list for trouble-maker > *Subject:* [Trouble-maker-developers] Let's kick this thing off > > > > OK, I'm back in the country and ready to devote some time to this project. > > 1) Has everyone picked a favorite Linux and built a test box or VM? > > 2) If so, can you please chime in on this thread and let me know what > you're doing, so I can track it? > > 3) If not, let me know that you need guidance and I can fill in the holes > based on what others are doing. (In general, if you are going after > certification, I recommend Red Hat... though I like other distros better.) > > 4) Who is willing to meet next week before the LUG meeting so we can have a > real, in person, project meeting? > > Thanks, > > -Josh More > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Trouble-maker-developers mailing list > Tro...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trouble-maker-developers > > |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-04-13 16:37:44
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Well, I haven't specifically built a test box, but I did build 4 Ubuntu boxes for Spam filtering. I'm still trying to decide what OS is going to suit me best. I'm thinking CentOS, but haven't totally decided. Any suggestions? _____ From: Developers list for trouble-maker [mailto:tro...@li...] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:13 AM To: Developers list for trouble-maker Subject: [Trouble-maker-developers] Let's kick this thing off OK, I'm back in the country and ready to devote some time to this project. 1) Has everyone picked a favorite Linux and built a test box or VM? 2) If so, can you please chime in on this thread and let me know what you're doing, so I can track it? 3) If not, let me know that you need guidance and I can fill in the holes based on what others are doing. (In general, if you are going after certification, I recommend Red Hat... though I like other distros better.) 4) Who is willing to meet next week before the LUG meeting so we can have a real, in person, project meeting? Thanks, -Josh More |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-04-13 13:43:41
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OK, I'm back in the country and ready to devote some time to this project. 1) Has everyone picked a favorite Linux and built a test box or VM? 2) If so, can you please chime in on this thread and let me know what you're doing, so I can track it? 3) If not, let me know that you need guidance and I can fill in the holes based on what others are doing. (In general, if you are going after certification, I recommend Red Hat... though I like other distros better.) 4) Who is willing to meet next week before the LUG meeting so we can have a real, in person, project meeting? Thanks, -Josh More |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-02-25 19:24:36
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n case anyone is interested, Matt Nuzum has offered to host DNS if any of you want it. His domain is iowatechies.com<https://webmail.alliancetechnologies.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=df59f014574944808938d2f067293a8a&URL=http%3a%2f%2fiowatechies.com> , so we'd be looking at using something like bob.iowatechies.com , in case you wanted to leverage external DNS for your testing. If you're interested, let me know and I'll hook you up with him. -Josh |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-02-25 19:18:23
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OK. If you have any available money, I recommend that you pick up Jang's RHCE guide. http://www.amazon.com/Certified-Engineer-Linux-Study-Certification/dp/0072264543/ref=sr_1_1 It goes into detail on a lot of this stuff, and if you learn well from books, it's well worth your time. Basically, though, you start with a CentOS 5 installation and turn on NFS. Then, later, when you want to install another system, you choose to do an "NFS" install and point the new system to your existing NFS server. That installs Linux over the wire, and you don't have to deal with CDs or DVDs. This is how a lot of big businesses do it. The "Kickstart" bit is basically a configuration file that tells the installing system what to install. It's what RedHat uses for their installations, but if you modify it, you get more options than "server" and "workstation". You can have a script that makes a fully functional email server and the like. It can attended or unattended. Other distros have similar functionality, but for now, I'd like to focus on the RedHat world, as that is the best cert to get to prove competance to hiring companies. -Josh On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Developers list for trouble-maker < tro...@li...> wrote: > > If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux, I >> recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via >> Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot. >> >> -Josh >> > > And....nope...lost. This might be a good place to start. Sounds like > something I want know know how to do! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Trouble-maker-developers mailing list > Tro...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trouble-maker-developers > > |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-02-25 19:17:54
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Yeah. I'm working on it. That's also why I'm signing my emails. -Josh On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Developers list for trouble-maker < tro...@li...> wrote: > I've noticed that this list doesn't show who the emails originate from > either. Thats gonna be awfully confusing! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Developers list for trouble-maker [mailto: > tro...@li...] > Sent: Thu 2/25/2010 12:47 PM > To: Developers list for trouble-maker > Subject: Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff > > > If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux, > I > > recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via > > Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot. > > > > -Josh > > > > And....nope...lost. This might be a good place to start. Sounds like > something I want know know how to do! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Trouble-maker-developers mailing list > Tro...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trouble-maker-developers > > |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-02-25 19:15:03
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I've noticed that this list doesn't show who the emails originate from either. Thats gonna be awfully confusing! -----Original Message----- From: Developers list for trouble-maker [mailto:tro...@li...] Sent: Thu 2/25/2010 12:47 PM To: Developers list for trouble-maker Subject: Re: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff > If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux, I > recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via > Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot. > > -Josh > And....nope...lost. This might be a good place to start. Sounds like something I want know know how to do! |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-02-25 18:47:25
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> If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux, I > recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via > Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot. > > -Josh > And....nope...lost. This might be a good place to start. Sounds like something I want know know how to do! |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-02-25 16:22:06
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Top priority, I think, is to run through the RHCE list of breakables and tasks. So, to start, we'll be looking at things like: * Basic networking * Partition creation and expansion (RAID, LVM and regular) * Apache * VSFTPD * NFS * GRUB * PAM * Quotas * CUPS * Postfix * Squid * Samba * Bind * Dovecot * Sendmail * DHCP * Xorg * SELinux If you're going for your RHCE instead of just wanting to play with Linux, I recommend that you also setup another system that installs CentOS via Kickstart and NFS, as you'll be wanting to install Linux a lot. -Josh On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Developers list for trouble-maker < tro...@li...> wrote: > Anything in particular we will be breaking? Should we be installing LAMP > type things, or just a standard desktop environment? > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Developers list for trouble-maker [mailto: > tro...@li...] > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:27 PM > *To:* tro...@li... > *Subject:* [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff > > > > Thanks for volunteering to help out the trouble-maker project. I know that > all of you have differing levels of both commitment and skill levels with > Linux. I'm fine with that, as any attention at all will be more progress > than the project has had in recent years. > > I created trouble-maker to help me get my RHCE. In a nutshell, it's an > application that randomly breaks a system so you get the fun of fixing it! > I believe that the engine is solid, but I need help writing/adjusting > scripts to both break a system and test that it's been repaired correctly. > I learned a lot about Linux building the original project, both on RHEL and > SLES. Based on this, I expect that anyone who works on it will learn a lot > about the distro of their choice... That said, at this time, RHEL is still > the most popular platform for the project, as it's directly relatable to the > RHCE. > > It's going to be a bit of time before I can start any training sessions, > but the ultimate goal here for me is to get an updated project and hold > regular (monthly?) "classes" about Linux administration. This will be a > good way to build Linux experience, both from the admin side (fixing a > broken system) and scripting (building out the project). > > To start, we'll need to leverage virtualization or have dedicated test > hardware. My personal preference is for vmware-server, as it's free and > works pretty well. However, things should work fine with others like KVM or > VirtualBox. > > Based on the list discussion, it seems Ubuntu and RHEL are the most > useful. So for the next few weeks, let's just get some machines built. If > you want to get experience with RHEL, just build a CentOS VM. If you run > into issues, just ask for help on this list. I may be hard to get ahold of > for the next few weeks due to existing projects, so I'm not really looking > for this to really kick off until mid March. > > I will, however, be paying attention for the next several days, so if you > have any questions, now is the time and here is the place. > > Thanks again, > > -Josh More > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Trouble-maker-developers mailing list > Tro...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trouble-maker-developers > > |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-02-25 15:52:24
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Anything in particular we will be breaking? Should we be installing LAMP type things, or just a standard desktop environment? _____ From: Developers list for trouble-maker [mailto:tro...@li...] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:27 PM To: tro...@li... Subject: [Trouble-maker-developers] Project kickoff Thanks for volunteering to help out the trouble-maker project. I know that all of you have differing levels of both commitment and skill levels with Linux. I'm fine with that, as any attention at all will be more progress than the project has had in recent years. I created trouble-maker to help me get my RHCE. In a nutshell, it's an application that randomly breaks a system so you get the fun of fixing it! I believe that the engine is solid, but I need help writing/adjusting scripts to both break a system and test that it's been repaired correctly. I learned a lot about Linux building the original project, both on RHEL and SLES. Based on this, I expect that anyone who works on it will learn a lot about the distro of their choice... That said, at this time, RHEL is still the most popular platform for the project, as it's directly relatable to the RHCE. It's going to be a bit of time before I can start any training sessions, but the ultimate goal here for me is to get an updated project and hold regular (monthly?) "classes" about Linux administration. This will be a good way to build Linux experience, both from the admin side (fixing a broken system) and scripting (building out the project). To start, we'll need to leverage virtualization or have dedicated test hardware. My personal preference is for vmware-server, as it's free and works pretty well. However, things should work fine with others like KVM or VirtualBox. Based on the list discussion, it seems Ubuntu and RHEL are the most useful. So for the next few weeks, let's just get some machines built. If you want to get experience with RHEL, just build a CentOS VM. If you run into issues, just ask for help on this list. I may be hard to get ahold of for the next few weeks due to existing projects, so I'm not really looking for this to really kick off until mid March. I will, however, be paying attention for the next several days, so if you have any questions, now is the time and here is the place. Thanks again, -Josh More |
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From: Developers l. f. trouble-m. <tro...@li...> - 2010-02-25 03:29:01
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Thanks for volunteering to help out the trouble-maker project. I know that all of you have differing levels of both commitment and skill levels with Linux. I'm fine with that, as any attention at all will be more progress than the project has had in recent years. I created trouble-maker to help me get my RHCE. In a nutshell, it's an application that randomly breaks a system so you get the fun of fixing it! I believe that the engine is solid, but I need help writing/adjusting scripts to both break a system and test that it's been repaired correctly. I learned a lot about Linux building the original project, both on RHEL and SLES. Based on this, I expect that anyone who works on it will learn a lot about the distro of their choice... That said, at this time, RHEL is still the most popular platform for the project, as it's directly relatable to the RHCE. It's going to be a bit of time before I can start any training sessions, but the ultimate goal here for me is to get an updated project and hold regular (monthly?) "classes" about Linux administration. This will be a good way to build Linux experience, both from the admin side (fixing a broken system) and scripting (building out the project). To start, we'll need to leverage virtualization or have dedicated test hardware. My personal preference is for vmware-server, as it's free and works pretty well. However, things should work fine with others like KVM or VirtualBox. Based on the list discussion, it seems Ubuntu and RHEL are the most useful. So for the next few weeks, let's just get some machines built. If you want to get experience with RHEL, just build a CentOS VM. If you run into issues, just ask for help on this list. I may be hard to get ahold of for the next few weeks due to existing projects, so I'm not really looking for this to really kick off until mid March. I will, however, be paying attention for the next several days, so if you have any questions, now is the time and here is the place. Thanks again, -Josh More |
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