Re: [Treebase-devel] new, simplified search UI

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> Nice to have a generic search box, now if we could just get rid of the
> "projection metaphor" because it is as confusing as hell!

I guess we don't present it well by calling it a projection, but
people will obviously want to do things like "get me the trees for
taxon X". What would be the right way to present this?

> Oh, and why doesn't TreeBASE support searching by higher taxa? This is easy
> to do, and seems an obvious feature to have...

Yes.

> On 21 Feb 2012, at 17:18, Rutger Vos wrote:
>
> The only thing that people may not expect is the tokenization based on comma
> rather than whitespace, because it's different from what Google does (which
> is what everyone is used to).
>
>
> Except it isn't precisely what google does, because it weighs
> occurrences of words near each other higher, so that typing 'Homo
> sapiens' (no quotes) won't just return a bucket of pages that have the
> words 'Homo' and 'sapiens' anywhere in them. And maybe we don't want
> people to have to write 'Homo sapiens' (with quotes) every time they
> search for a species - which will be always once they find out we
> don't do higher taxa.
>
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Rutger Vos wrote:
>
>
> When it encounters an integer, it assumes it could be any of these
> predicates:
>
>
> - 'tb.identifier.ncbi',
>
> - 'tb.identifier.ubio',
>
> - 'tb.identifier.taxon',
>
> - 'tb.identifier.taxon.tb1'
>
>
> For things that look like TreeBASE id's (e.g. /^[A-Z][a-z]*\d+$/):
>
>
> - 'tb.identifier.taxon',
>
> - 'tb.identifier.taxon.tb1'
>
>
> Words:
>
>
> - 'tb.title.taxon',
>
> - 'tb.title.taxonLabel',
>
> - 'tb.title.taxonVariant'
>
>
> What users type in the search box is split on commas. In an earlier
>
> iteration I made it split on (quoted) words/white space - but that
>
> messes up what is probably the 80% use case of people entering "Genus
>
> species" (without quotes).
>
>
> If you now type "Homo sapiens, 9606" (without quotes), you will get
>
> hits that have 9606 as any identifier, and hits for Homo sapiens,
>
> including Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. By clicking on the advanced
>
> search button, users might be able to figure out (and influence) what
>
> exactly is searched on. Maybe we could have a screen cast that
>
> explains the search logic?
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Hilmar Lapp <hl...@ne...> wrote:
>
> Nice! I didn't try it extensively. What does it recognize and/or
>
> specifically search?
>
>
> -hilmar
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Rutger Vos wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> what do you think of this new, simplified search
>
> box: http://treebase-dev.nescent.org/treebase-web/search/taxonSearch.html
>
>
> I've done most of the prep work to have the same box for matrix, tree and
>
> study searching so that end users just type their search terms and we try to
>
> be clever in expanding those into the context-appropriate search predicates.
>
>
> Rutger
>
>
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