Re: [Treebase-devel] ABI proposal for phyloinformatics

[Karen C. <kar...@ne...>]

Tomorrow morning at 11 am EST is a winner so far. It would be good to
talk before the weekend, so I am going to tentatively schedule that
block unless I hear otherwise. Connection information will be in the
Google Doc - please ask if you need access.

Talk to you tomorrow,
Karen

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Karen Cranston
<kar...@ne...> wrote:
> Hilmar and I talked to Anne Maglia from NSF this morning. The notes
> are on the "Pitches for TreeBASE_ABI" document (which is now editable
> by anyone with the link, BTW). She did not see any major issues and
> had plenty of advise on how to avoid common pitfalls when writing for
> the ABI panel.
>
> Summary:
> 1. Making the MIAPA component into a separate Innovation proposal is
> probably a good idea.
> 2. The TreeBASE / ToLWeb piece is well-suited for a Development
> proposal, and we can discuss MIAPA in this proposal as long as we have
> a concrete contingency plan for the possibility that this gets funded
> and the MIAPA proposal does not.
> 3. There is no general rule about incremental improvement vs major
> re-engineering, but the goals of the proposal must be novel in some
> way and have intellectual merit. A re-engineering proposal could be
> computationally novel, while a proposal with only incremental
> improvements must instead have novel interface components or strong
> biological motivations.
> 4. There seems to be an empty niche for proposals that include novel
> front-end as well as back-end development, but we need to make sure we
> have the appropriate expertise for the former.
> 5. She suggests sharing the draft with someone from BIO (perhaps
> Maureen Kearney) to get the user community perspective
>
> Please fill out the doodle poll so that we can plan the next course of action!
>
> Cheers,
> Karen
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Hilmar Lapp <hl...@ne...> wrote:
>> It looks like a response from NSF is still pending. There is not a lot of
>> time left until the submission deadline, and I'll be out of commission for
>> at least 7 days during that time starting Wed next week. So I suggest we
>> start planning and get together independently of the NSF response to hash
>> out over a conference call possible contributions and commitments. Here's a
>> Doodle poll for scheduling.
>>
>> http://www.doodle.com/8zvwbidtxm9gzxcp
>>
>> To make sure that we can have a relatively targeted discussion, my
>> suggestion would be that everyone who is willing to play a role in this
>> proposal enter their availability, and come prepared for the following
>> questions:
>>
>> 1. What aims would a proposal need to have to for you to commit to be part
>> of it, and conversely, what aims should it not have. (Ideally, the aims
>> would be from either pitch A or pitch B that Karen sent to NSF for
>> feedback.)
>>
>> 2. What aims, expertise, and partners are we missing from the group. Do you
>> have suggestions for how to pull those in.
>>
>> 3. What role are you interested in playing, for which aim(s). What kind and
>> how many resources do you anticipate requiring support for to accomplish
>> those aims.
>>
>> At the end of this, ideally we have a concrete sense for whether there are
>> 0, 1, or 2 proposals that are viably going to come together, what size of
>> proposal(s) we are talking about, who would take responsibility for what,
>> and who else we need to reach out to.
>>
>> Comments / suggestions / additional items for the enumeration above welcome.
>>
>>        -hilmar
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