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Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7

[Alex K. <ale...@ho...>]

Oh wow, I was not aware that someone already wrote a kernel module driver for the multitouch trackpads!
Good work Henrik! Sorry for getting offtopic, I'll try it out on my penryn macbook pro and get back to you.

Alex

> From: tou...@li...
> Subject: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7
> To: tou...@li...
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:03:11 -0700
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>    1. Re: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5 (Anthony Callegaro)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:49:47 +0100
> From: Anthony Callegaro <cal...@gm...>
> Subject: Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
> To: tou...@li...
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> 
> Hey Felipe,
> 
> Yes you have bcm5974 : http://web.comhem.se/rydberg/Bits/ which is a
> attempt to do a Synaptic driver for X11. It seems to work but on MacBook
> Pro I think it need an awful lot of tuning because it is quite unusable.
> 
> Other than that I was talking of the specific input hardware of Macs is
> general (keyboard and trackpad). 
> 
> For the keyboard specific keys you have pommed as well. Which does the
> keyboard back lighting as well (at least when it works :o) )
> 
> That's why I was wondering if we could approach these other projects to
> avoid re-inventing the wheel...
> 
> Le jeudi 26 juin 2008 ? 16:17 +0200, Felipe Sere a ?crit :
> > Anthony,
> > 
> > you mention multiple implementations of a multitouch interface... I
> > have only heard of touchd. can you point me to some websites? =) I am
> > not abandoning touched, I just want to see what's out there.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Felipe
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Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7

[Scott S. <sco...@gm...>]

Hi all,
Thats cool that a kernel driver is getting created.  I think only time 
will tell which is the best way of doing things.  I use touchd everyday 
and have no problems.  I think that its architecture is expandable when 
better hardware comes along but until then I don't have much motivation 
to do more.  Its totally possible to use a kernel module with touchd but 
it would need some rework.  I don't mind if discussions of other ways of 
doing it exist.  It makes it easier for me to follow.  :-)

I have an internship this summer so I won't be doing much on touchd.  I 
also have other projects that have been on my mind more.

Ultimately, I hope that touchd help move things along.  It works for me 
and thats what I need.  What happens next is not much of a concern for 
me.  Keep up the good work.  I'll definitely be following along and 
giving my feedback.
Cheers,
Scott

P.S.  I think your messages are getting caught because the email is not 
subscribed to the list.  I'm a bit slow on letting them through.

Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:06 +0000, Alex Karpenko wrote:
>   
>> Oh wow, I was not aware that someone already wrote a kernel module
>> driver for the multitouch trackpads!
>>     
>
> I almost surprised myself :-) The latest version (0.31) contains some
> new findings on the device itself; for instance, it seems to have twos
> set of finger size sensors, two sets of force sensors, and a
> finger-shape orientation sensor.
>
>   
>> Good work Henrik! Sorry for getting offtopic, I'll try it out on my
>> penryn macbook pro and get back to you.
>>     
>
> Great, I have been dying to get some input from the penryn.
>
> On a different note: I sent a message to the touchd-devel list twice
> during the past week, but it seems it got stuck on the way?
>
>   
>> Alex
>>
>>     
>>> From: tou...@li...
>>> Subject: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7
>>> To: tou...@li...
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:03:11 -0700
>>>
>>> Send Touchd-devel mailing list submissions to
>>> tou...@li...
>>>
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
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>>> tou...@li...
>>>
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>>>
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> than "Re: Contents of Touchd-devel digest..."
>>>
>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> 1. Re: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5 (Anthony Callegaro)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:49:47 +0100
>>> From: Anthony Callegaro <cal...@gm...>
>>> Subject: Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
>>> To: tou...@li...
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <121...@as...>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Hey Felipe,
>>>
>>> Yes you have bcm5974 : http://web.comhem.se/rydberg/Bits/ which is a
>>> attempt to do a Synaptic driver for X11. It seems to work but on
>>>       
>> MacBook
>>     
>>> Pro I think it need an awful lot of tuning because it is quite
>>>       
>> unusable.
>>     
>>> Other than that I was talking of the specific input hardware of Macs
>>>       
>> is
>>     
>>> general (keyboard and trackpad). 
>>>
>>> For the keyboard specific keys you have pommed as well. Which does
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> keyboard back lighting as well (at least when it works :o) )
>>>
>>> That's why I was wondering if we could approach these other projects
>>>       
>> to
>>     
>>> avoid re-inventing the wheel...
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 26 juin 2008 ? 16:17 +0200, Felipe Sere a ?crit :
>>>       
>>>> Anthony,
>>>>
>>>> you mention multiple implementations of a multitouch interface...
>>>>         
>> I
>>     
>>>> have only heard of touchd. can you point me to some websites? =) I
>>>>         
>> am
>>     
>>>> not abandoning touched, I just want to see what's out there.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Felipe
>>>>         
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Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7

[Henrik R. <ry...@eu...>]

Hello Scott,

thanks for the reply, and for telling you plans with touchd. May I use
this your email address in the credit list for the driver submitted to
kernel.org?

Cheers,
Henrik

On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:49 -0700, Scott Shawcroft wrote:
> Hi all,
> Thats cool that a kernel driver is getting created.  I think only time 
> will tell which is the best way of doing things.  I use touchd everyday 
> and have no problems.  I think that its architecture is expandable when 
> better hardware comes along but until then I don't have much motivation 
> to do more.  Its totally possible to use a kernel module with touchd but 
> it would need some rework.  I don't mind if discussions of other ways of 
> doing it exist.  It makes it easier for me to follow.  :-)
> 
> I have an internship this summer so I won't be doing much on touchd.  I 
> also have other projects that have been on my mind more.
> 
> Ultimately, I hope that touchd help move things along.  It works for me 
> and thats what I need.  What happens next is not much of a concern for 
> me.  Keep up the good work.  I'll definitely be following along and 
> giving my feedback.
> Cheers,
> Scott
> 
> P.S.  I think your messages are getting caught because the email is not 
> subscribed to the list.  I'm a bit slow on letting them through.
> 
> Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:06 +0000, Alex Karpenko wrote:
> >   
> >> Oh wow, I was not aware that someone already wrote a kernel module
> >> driver for the multitouch trackpads!
> >>     
> >
> > I almost surprised myself :-) The latest version (0.31) contains some
> > new findings on the device itself; for instance, it seems to have twos
> > set of finger size sensors, two sets of force sensors, and a
> > finger-shape orientation sensor.
> >
> >   
> >> Good work Henrik! Sorry for getting offtopic, I'll try it out on my
> >> penryn macbook pro and get back to you.
> >>     
> >
> > Great, I have been dying to get some input from the penryn.
> >
> > On a different note: I sent a message to the touchd-devel list twice
> > during the past week, but it seems it got stuck on the way?
> >
> >   
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>     
> >>> From: tou...@li...
> >>> Subject: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7
> >>> To: tou...@li...
> >>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:03:11 -0700
> >>>
> >>> Send Touchd-devel mailing list submissions to
> >>> tou...@li...
> >>>
> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/touchd-devel
> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >>> tou...@li...
> >>>
> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at
> >>> tou...@li...
> >>>
> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >>> than "Re: Contents of Touchd-devel digest..."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Today's Topics:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Re: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5 (Anthony Callegaro)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>     
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:49:47 +0100
> >>> From: Anthony Callegaro <cal...@gm...>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
> >>> To: tou...@li...
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> <121...@as...>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>
> >>> Hey Felipe,
> >>>
> >>> Yes you have bcm5974 : http://web.comhem.se/rydberg/Bits/ which is a
> >>> attempt to do a Synaptic driver for X11. It seems to work but on
> >>>       
> >> MacBook
> >>     
> >>> Pro I think it need an awful lot of tuning because it is quite
> >>>       
> >> unusable.
> >>     
> >>> Other than that I was talking of the specific input hardware of Macs
> >>>       
> >> is
> >>     
> >>> general (keyboard and trackpad). 
> >>>
> >>> For the keyboard specific keys you have pommed as well. Which does
> >>>       
> >> the
> >>     
> >>> keyboard back lighting as well (at least when it works :o) )
> >>>
> >>> That's why I was wondering if we could approach these other projects
> >>>       
> >> to
> >>     
> >>> avoid re-inventing the wheel...
> >>>
> >>> Le jeudi 26 juin 2008 ? 16:17 +0200, Felipe Sere a ?crit :
> >>>       
> >>>> Anthony,
> >>>>
> >>>> you mention multiple implementations of a multitouch interface...
> >>>>         
> >> I
> >>     
> >>>> have only heard of touchd. can you point me to some websites? =) I
> >>>>         
> >> am
> >>     
> >>>> not abandoning touched, I just want to see what's out there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Felipe
> >>>>         
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Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7

[Henrik R. <ry...@eu...>]

On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:06 +0000, Alex Karpenko wrote:
> Oh wow, I was not aware that someone already wrote a kernel module
> driver for the multitouch trackpads!

I almost surprised myself :-) The latest version (0.31) contains some
new findings on the device itself; for instance, it seems to have twos
set of finger size sensors, two sets of force sensors, and a
finger-shape orientation sensor.

> Good work Henrik! Sorry for getting offtopic, I'll try it out on my
> penryn macbook pro and get back to you.

Great, I have been dying to get some input from the penryn.

On a different note: I sent a message to the touchd-devel list twice
during the past week, but it seems it got stuck on the way?

> 
> Alex
> 
> > From: tou...@li...
> > Subject: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7
> > To: tou...@li...
> > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:03:11 -0700
> > 
> > Send Touchd-devel mailing list submissions to
> > tou...@li...
> > 
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/touchd-devel
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > tou...@li...
> > 
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > tou...@li...
> > 
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Touchd-devel digest..."
> > 
> > 
> > Today's Topics:
> > 
> > 1. Re: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5 (Anthony Callegaro)
> > 
> > 
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:49:47 +0100
> > From: Anthony Callegaro <cal...@gm...>
> > Subject: Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
> > To: tou...@li...
> > Message-ID:
> > <121...@as...>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > 
> > Hey Felipe,
> > 
> > Yes you have bcm5974 : http://web.comhem.se/rydberg/Bits/ which is a
> > attempt to do a Synaptic driver for X11. It seems to work but on
> MacBook
> > Pro I think it need an awful lot of tuning because it is quite
> unusable.
> > 
> > Other than that I was talking of the specific input hardware of Macs
> is
> > general (keyboard and trackpad). 
> > 
> > For the keyboard specific keys you have pommed as well. Which does
> the
> > keyboard back lighting as well (at least when it works :o) )
> > 
> > That's why I was wondering if we could approach these other projects
> to
> > avoid re-inventing the wheel...
> > 
> > Le jeudi 26 juin 2008 ? 16:17 +0200, Felipe Sere a ?crit :
> > > Anthony,
> > > 
> > > you mention multiple implementations of a multitouch interface...
> I
> > > have only heard of touchd. can you point me to some websites? =) I
> am
> > > not abandoning touched, I just want to see what's out there.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Felipe
> > 
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> >
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> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________

Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7

[Alex K. <ale...@ho...>]

I've posted some feedback here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5276900#post5276900
as I don't want to get too offtopic on a touchd mailing list ;)

Good stuff guys, I'll be sure to follow both projects!

Alex

> Subject: RE: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7
> From: ry...@eu...
> To: ale...@ho...
> CC: tou...@li...
> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:01:48 +0200
> 
> On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:06 +0000, Alex Karpenko wrote:
> > Oh wow, I was not aware that someone already wrote a kernel module
> > driver for the multitouch trackpads!
> 
> I almost surprised myself :-) The latest version (0.31) contains some
> new findings on the device itself; for instance, it seems to have twos
> set of finger size sensors, two sets of force sensors, and a
> finger-shape orientation sensor.
> 
> > Good work Henrik! Sorry for getting offtopic, I'll try it out on my
> > penryn macbook pro and get back to you.
> 
> Great, I have been dying to get some input from the penryn.
> 
> On a different note: I sent a message to the touchd-devel list twice
> during the past week, but it seems it got stuck on the way?
> 
> > 
> > Alex
> > 
> > > From: tou...@li...
> > > Subject: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7
> > > To: tou...@li...
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:03:11 -0700
> > > 
> > > Send Touchd-devel mailing list submissions to
> > > tou...@li...
> > > 
> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/touchd-devel
> > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > > tou...@li...
> > > 
> > > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > > tou...@li...
> > > 
> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > > than "Re: Contents of Touchd-devel digest..."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Today's Topics:
> > > 
> > > 1. Re: Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5 (Anthony Callegaro)
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:49:47 +0100
> > > From: Anthony Callegaro <cal...@gm...>
> > > Subject: Re: [Touchd-devel] Touchd-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
> > > To: tou...@li...
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <121...@as...>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > > 
> > > Hey Felipe,
> > > 
> > > Yes you have bcm5974 : http://web.comhem.se/rydberg/Bits/ which is a
> > > attempt to do a Synaptic driver for X11. It seems to work but on
> > MacBook
> > > Pro I think it need an awful lot of tuning because it is quite
> > unusable.
> > > 
> > > Other than that I was talking of the specific input hardware of Macs
> > is
> > > general (keyboard and trackpad). 
> > > 
> > > For the keyboard specific keys you have pommed as well. Which does
> > the
> > > keyboard back lighting as well (at least when it works :o) )
> > > 
> > > That's why I was wondering if we could approach these other projects
> > to
> > > avoid re-inventing the wheel...
> > > 
> > > Le jeudi 26 juin 2008 ? 16:17 +0200, Felipe Sere a ?crit :
> > > > Anthony,
> > > > 
> > > > you mention multiple implementations of a multitouch interface...
> > I
> > > > have only heard of touchd. can you point me to some websites? =) I
> > am
> > > > not abandoning touched, I just want to see what's out there.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > Felipe
> > > 
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> > > 
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> > > 
> > >
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> > > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php
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> > > ------------------------------
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Touchd-devel mailing list
> > > Tou...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/touchd-devel
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> > > 
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> > > ******************************************
> > 
> > 
> > ______________________________________________________________________
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