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From: Peter B. <pe...@pe...> - 2004-04-05 14:35:30
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Hi all, if some of you can spare some time: here is a new version of Docco you could test for me: http://kvo.itee.uq.edu.au/~pbecker/Docco-CVSbuild-20040406-0003.zip (~1.5MB) New features/fixes: - File->Exit now closes properly (0.2 did not safe the index metainfo properly) - the "View" menu is now called "Diagram" and contains extra entries for graphic export and printing - nodes can be moved, standard left-drag uses the n-dim manipulator, shift-left-drag moves single nodes - the query field now has a drop-down list with the last queries (up to ten). This is restored between sessions, as well as the last query. - all session management went into the Java preferences API, which means Registry on Windows machine, .java on UNIX/Linux. Advantages: - user-specific - no new settings after upgrades - no write access to installation directory needed I also updated the PDFbox and POI plugins: http://kvo.itee.uq.edu.au/~pbecker/pdfboxPlugin-CVSbuild-20040406-0003.zip (~2MB) http://kvo.itee.uq.edu.au/~pbecker/poiPlugin-CVSbuild-20040406-0003.zip (~1MB) PDFBox is just a library-upgrade, they claim lots of bugfixes. It is quite a bit larger now -- thanks to some new Unicode mappings it seems. No idea if it is worth it -- experiments comparing the two versions are welcome. The old POI plugin started to fail on Word documents, it seem due to JRE changes. Should work again, it also uses the Textmining.org text extractor, which should get more text out of documents (tables etc.) and shoudl work on Word 6.0 documents. I'll try to give it a documentation update soon and then release it as a new version unless someone founds bugs. Regards, Peter |
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From: Bastian W. <ba...@gm...> - 2004-04-05 16:59:09
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Hi Peter, here is my first bug report: - I miss the option to recreate the diagram by hitting the "Submit" button again, this was a nice option to change the diagrams layout. I guess not intended, but nice anyway. It is still possible by hitting "Enter", but not via the button, it remains grey. Nothing serious. - The PDF plugin still has the problem I mentioned earlier. I get just one hit out of 52 on the BIS example, the "Schulz.pdf". Also "ext:pdf" finds just that one. I tried it on another folder, same problem, just 5 out of 15. - A question: what about PDF/PS export ? Could I use the same plugins as in TJ ? Besides this - very nice, I like it very much, especially node dragging ;-) Cheers, Bastian -- Bastian Wormuth Lauteschlägerstrasse 42 D - 64289 Darmstadt Tel: ++49 (0) 6151/718039 Email: wo...@ma... Monday, April 05, 2004, 4:14:27 PM, you wrote: PB> Hi all, PB> if some of you can spare some time: here is a new version of Docco you PB> could test for me: PB> http://kvo.itee.uq.edu.au/~pbecker/Docco-CVSbuild-20040406-0003.zip PB> (~1.5MB) PB> New features/fixes: - File->>Exit now closes properly (0.2 did not safe the index metainfo PB> properly) PB> - the "View" menu is now called "Diagram" and contains extra entries for PB> graphic export and printing PB> - nodes can be moved, standard left-drag uses the n-dim manipulator, PB> shift-left-drag moves single nodes PB> - the query field now has a drop-down list with the last queries (up to PB> ten). This is restored between sessions, as well as the last query. PB> - all session management went into the Java preferences API, which means PB> Registry on Windows machine, .java on UNIX/Linux. Advantages: PB> - user-specific PB> - no new settings after upgrades PB> - no write access to installation directory needed PB> I also updated the PDFbox and POI plugins: PB> http://kvo.itee.uq.edu.au/~pbecker/pdfboxPlugin-CVSbuild-20040406-0003.zip PB> (~2MB) PB> http://kvo.itee.uq.edu.au/~pbecker/poiPlugin-CVSbuild-20040406-0003.zip PB> (~1MB) PB> PDFBox is just a library-upgrade, they claim lots of bugfixes. It is PB> quite a bit larger now -- thanks to some new Unicode mappings it seems. PB> No idea if it is worth it -- experiments comparing the two versions are PB> welcome. PB> The old POI plugin started to fail on Word documents, it seem due to JRE PB> changes. Should work again, it also uses the Textmining.org text PB> extractor, which should get more text out of documents (tables etc.) and PB> shoudl work on Word 6.0 documents. PB> I'll try to give it a documentation update soon and then release it as a PB> new version unless someone founds bugs. PB> Regards, PB> Peter PB> ------------------------------------------------------- PB> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials PB> Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of PB> GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system PB> administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click PB> _______________________________________________ PB> Tockit-general mailing list PB> Toc...@li... PB> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tockit-general |
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From: Peter B. <pe...@pe...> - 2004-04-06 00:08:01
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Bastian Wormuth wrote: >Hi Peter, > >here is my first bug report: > >- I miss the option to recreate the diagram by hitting the "Submit" > button again, this was a nice option to change the diagrams layout. > I guess not intended, but nice anyway. It is still possible by > hitting "Enter", but not via the button, it remains grey. Nothing > serious. > > It actually takes a little bit of code to disable the button. I can remove that. >- The PDF plugin still has the problem I mentioned earlier. I get just > one hit out of 52 on the BIS example, the "Schulz.pdf". Also "ext:pdf" > finds just that one. I tried it on another folder, same problem, > just 5 out of 15. > > First test I did was running against the ICFCA04 CD. I got 3/4 hits, the ToscanaJ manual failed. There seems to be some problem with the OOo PDFs, even though the Elba manual worked. I attached some stuff to this bug in PDFbox: - http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=860027&group_id=78314&atid=552832 I could reproduce the problem with the BIS example, though. Unfortunately it is a feature, not a bug -- see the last entry for 0.6.3 on this list: - http://www.csh.rit.edu/~ben/projects/pdfbox/news.html Acrobat Reader disallows copying text out of these documents, too -- although it does allow text selection, whatever that is good for if you can't copy it. So this is actually correct behaviour. Not that I really want it, though :-( But I don't think I want to hack PDFbox either -- which shouldn't be too hard (a diff between the source of 0.6.2 and 0.6.3 would most likely help a lot), but while I disagree with this type of secretiveness, I still think we should respect that. >- A question: what about PDF/PS export ? Could I use the same plugins > as in TJ ? > > Yes, the diagram export plugins are quite low-level: they operate on the canvas package, which means any program using the canvas and the plugin loader does automatically use them. >Besides this - very nice, I like it very much, especially node >dragging ;-) > > Thanks. What do you think about restoring the last query? I am still not sure if I really want that, I just couldn't be bothered yesterday to find a way to start with an empty text field. JComboBox is yet another really bad part of Swing :-( Quite a bit of swearing involved in getting there. :-) Peter |
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From: Peter B. <pe...@pe...> - 2004-04-06 00:14:05
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Two additions... Peter Becker wrote: > Bastian Wormuth wrote: > >> Hi Peter, >> >> here is my first bug report: >> >> - I miss the option to recreate the diagram by hitting the "Submit" >> button again, this was a nice option to change the diagrams layout. >> I guess not intended, but nice anyway. It is still possible by >> hitting "Enter", but not via the button, it remains grey. Nothing >> serious. >> >> > It actually takes a little bit of code to disable the button. I can > remove that. Changed. [..PDFbox, export plugins...] >> Besides this - very nice, I like it very much, especially node >> dragging ;-) >> >> > Thanks. What do you think about restoring the last query? I am still > not sure if I really want that, I just couldn't be bothered yesterday > to find a way to start with an empty text field. JComboBox is yet > another really bad part of Swing :-( Quite a bit of swearing involved > in getting there. :-) That one was actually easy in the morning (not that it changes my opinion about JComboBox much). I can do it whatever way we like. Peter |
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From: Peter B. <pe...@pe...> - 2004-04-06 14:33:42
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Bastian Wormuth wrote: >Tuesday, April 06, 2004, 2:04:26 AM, you wrote: > >PB> Bastian Wormuth wrote: > >PB> First test I did was running against the ICFCA04 CD. I got 3/4 hits, the >PB> ToscanaJ manual failed. There seems to be some problem with the OOo >PB> PDFs, even though the Elba manual worked. I attached some stuff to this >PB> bug in PDFbox: >PB> - >PB> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=860027&group_id=78314&atid=552832 > >PB> I could reproduce the problem with the BIS example, though. >PB> Unfortunately it is a feature, not a bug -- see the last entry for 0.6.3 >PB> on this list: >PB> - http://www.csh.rit.edu/~ben/projects/pdfbox/news.html > >PB> Acrobat Reader disallows copying text out of these documents, too -- >PB> although it does allow text selection, whatever that is good for if you >PB> can't copy it. > >PB> So this is actually correct behaviour. Not that I really want it, though >PB> :-( But I don't think I want to hack PDFbox either -- which shouldn't be >PB> too hard (a diff between the source of 0.6.2 and 0.6.3 would most likely >PB> help a lot), but while I disagree with this type of secretiveness, I >PB> still think we should respect that. > >... mmmh, so what to do ? PDFbox disallows copying text, but that's >not what we want, we just want to search for some text. Isn't there >any way around it ? Or couldn't we just use the old version ? > > These particular PDFs are encoded in a way that text is not supposed to be extracted -- neither by copy&paste nor by tools. It seems the old PDFbox ignored that, the new one respects this. Of course there is most likely a way around it, but I don't think it is important at the moment -- and I won't remove the old plugin, which you can still use. One thing I should do is adding better feedback, though. At the moment you have to hack the run-docco.bat and turn the javaw call into java, then check the output on the command line. Not nice, but I don't think I'll fix that in this version. Peter |
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From: Bastian W. <ba...@gm...> - 2004-04-06 10:06:19
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Tuesday, April 06, 2004, 2:04:26 AM, you wrote: PB> Bastian Wormuth wrote: PB> Thanks. What do you think about restoring the last query? I am still not PB> sure if I really want that, I just couldn't be bothered yesterday to PB> find a way to start with an empty text field. JComboBox is yet another PB> really bad part of Swing :-( Quite a bit of swearing involved in getting PB> there. :-) No, it good, that would have been my next request, if you hadn't done it yourself ! Regards, Bastian |
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