From: <ka...@te...> - 2004-02-26 13:17:42
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Sounds good to me. Unless I hear any other comments / suggestions before this evening, I'll make the changes and commit them today. Cheers, Kal Elmar_Seestädt writes: > I agree with Christoph in all points ;-) > His proposal for the license versioning problem is great. Lets bother > with this problem if it actually arises. > > Elmar > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Christoph Froehlich [mailto:cf...@fo...] > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2004 13:35 > > An: Kal Ahmed > > Cc: Elmar Seestädt; tm4j developers > > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Tm4j-developers] Source code license text > > > > > > Hi Kal, > > > > so many things to consider. sigh.. > > I see your point, that the local copy may be altered or vanishes. > > > > Maybe this is leading too far and we should just use your first > > proposal: > > /* > > Copyright (c) 2000-2004 The TM4J Project. All rights reserved. > > > > This software is licensed under a modified version of the > > Apache Software License. The full license text can be found > > at http://tm4j.org/LICENSE.txt > > */ > > > > This is short, simple and non-ambigous. > > > > In the unlikely case that the license will change, we will > > create a new stable adress, something like > > http://tm4j.org/LICENSE-2.txt and update all relevant resources. > > > > > > bye > > c > > > > > > > > > > Am Do, den 26.02.2004 schrieb ka...@te... um 12:51: > > > Hi Cristoph, > > > > > > I understand your point. I don't think that it is likely that the > > > license will change, but it could happen I suppose. The > > only problem > > > with referring only to the local license is that it could > > be that the > > > license file gets moved or altered. So, if there is only one > > > reference, referring to a copy of the license file that we have > > > control over makes more sense to me. > > > > > > Perhaps we should put a version number or version date in > > the license > > > file URL so the URL reference could be to, for example, > > > http://tm4j.org/LICENSE_20040226.txt Then if we use a different > > > license for a future release, that could have a different URL - of > > > course, that would mean updating all of the file headers, but that > > > shouldn't be a problem. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Kal > > > > > > Christoph Froehlich writes: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > I would opt for a version, that mentions only ONE occurrence. But > > > > maybe the local one: > > > > > > > > /* > > > > Copyright (c) 2000-2004 The TM4J Project. All rights reserved. > > > > > > > > This software is licensed under a modified version of the > > > > Apache Software License. The full license text can > > > > be found in the file LICENSE.txt in the root directory > > > > of the source tree. > > > > */ > > > > > > > > I wonder what would happen to the resources that reference the > > > > license on tm4j.org if we change the file tm4j.org/LICENSE.txt > > > > somewhere in the future. > > > > > > > > All theese resources would change their license too, > > aren't they? A > > > > kind of floating license. This sounds a bit strange to me. The > > > > license of a particular distribution, should be fixed. Or > > do I miss > > > > something? > > > > > > > > bye > > > > c > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Do, den 26.02.2004 schrieb ka...@te... um 11:58: > > > > > Hi Elmar, > > > > > > > > > > I agree the license text should be in the distributions (both > > > > > binary and source distributions). I just wondered > > whether to make > > > > > a reference to it > > > > > from the source code headers or just to reference the > > license file on > > > > > the > > > > > website. I'm in two minds about it - on the one hand > > having one place > > > > > referenced in all the source files means that there should be no > > > > > problem > > > > > about inconsistencies between the file on the site and > > the file in a > > > > > distribution. On the other hand the license file will be in the > > > > > distribution and it would be sensible to reference it there... > > > > > > > > > > I think it is something we can spend a lot of time > > worrying about > > > > > so I propose this slightly modified version of your > > proposed text > > > > > - just changed because LICENSE.txt is actually in the root > > > > > directory of the whole distro, > > > > > not at the root of the source tree (to me the "root of > > the source > > > > > tree" is > > > > > the src directory). > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > Copyright (c) 2000-2004 The TM4J Project. All rights reserved. > > > > > > > > > > This software is licensed under a modified version of > > > > > the Apache Software License. The full license text can > > > > > be found in the file LICENSE.txt in the root directory > > > > > of the distribution or at http://tm4j.org/LICENSE.txt */ > > > > > > > > > > Hows that ? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Kal > > > > > Elmar_Seestdt writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point from me. The License text should be included in > > > > > > the > > > > > source > > > > > > distribution as a text file as well. Maybe in the > > root directory > > > > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > sources. > > > > > > And there should be a reference to this file in the header: > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > Copyright (c) 2000-2004 The TM4J Project. All > > rights reserved. > > > > > > > > > > > > This software is licensed under a modified version of > > > > > > the Apache Software License. The full license text can > > > > > > be found in the file LICENSE.txt in the root directory > > > > > > of the source tree or at > > > > > > http://tm4j.org/LICENSE.txt > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think its better just to point to one place (the TM4J.org > > > > > > > website) and to say "modified version" so that > > people cannot > > > > > > > claim that we have passed the IP to the Apache Software > > > > > Foundation! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats a good idea people tend to get weird ideas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Elmar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps > > Now. Build > > > > > > and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD > > > > > > software kit from IBM. 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