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[timidity-talk] Linux, use a SoundFont?

[Torsten M. <tmohr@s.netic.de>]

Hello,

i read the "man page" and read some infos that users put on their web pages,
but i somehow can't seem to tell timidity to use a soundfont.

I have downloaded some free sound fonts and demos and unpacked them
so they have the extension .sf2

Timidity seems to load /etc/timidity.cfg, which sources 
/usr/share/timidity/timidity.cfg

I tried in timidity.cfg:

bank 0
dir /usr/share/timidity
0 %font WurlitzerEPdry.SF2 0 3

(I also tried several countless other combinations)

When playing a midi file, the other voices are missing now (as expected), but 
i also don't hear the piano part.


QSynth loads the sound file and says in "Channels":
Channel 1 Bank 0 Prog 3

So i created a MIDI file in Rosegarden that plays fine with the old timidity 
configuration.
I created the MIDI file with: channel 1, Bank "General Midi", Program 4 
(because the start to count from 1).  I also tried it as Program 3.

Timidity tells me:
No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 2 - this instrument will not be 
heard

In the second case it tells me:
No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 3 - this instrument will not be 
heard


I'm not sure what i need to do to make timidity play soundfonts or how to map 
soundfonts to MIDI instruments


Can anybody tell me what i need to do to play sounds?

I'm also not sure if i need to supply more information, if there are any 
useful tests i could do then please write to me.


Thanks for any hints,
Torsten.

Re: [timidity-talk] Linux, use a SoundFont?

[A. Z. <and...@co...>]

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:14:57 +0100
Torsten Mohr <tmohr@s.netic.de> wrote:

> 
> Timidity tells me:
> No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 2 - this instrument will not be 
> heard
> 
> In the second case it tells me:
> No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 3 - this instrument will not be 
> heard
> 

Sometimes when an sf2 soundfont contains a single instrument, it
is mapped internally to program 0.  For example, an sf2 flute
soundfont will sometimes contain program # 0 instead of # 73.
Timidity will read this internal program number and will believe
that the instrument is not present.

The way to correct this is to open the soundfont in an sf2 editor,
such as Swami (http://swami.sourceforge.net), and change the program
number to the appropriate value.  Then Timidity will recognize
the instrument and play it.

Andrew Zimmer

Re: [timidity-talk] Linux, use a SoundFont?

[Bob v. d. P. <bo...@me...>]

My /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg has 2 lines:

soundfont /home/bob/sounds/sfx-lib/SGM-V2.01.sf2
soundfont /home/bob/sounds/sfx-lib/acoustic_grand_piano_ydp_20080808.sf2 amp=800

This sets all voices to the stuff in 1st library; then resets the
piano0 to the 2nd. Works for me.

I think that the channel voice settings are set in the sf2 files, but not sure.



On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Torsten Mohr <tmohr@s.netic.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i read the "man page" and read some infos that users put on their web pages,
> but i somehow can't seem to tell timidity to use a soundfont.
>
> I have downloaded some free sound fonts and demos and unpacked them
> so they have the extension .sf2
>
> Timidity seems to load /etc/timidity.cfg, which sources
> /usr/share/timidity/timidity.cfg
>
> I tried in timidity.cfg:
>
> bank 0
> dir /usr/share/timidity
> 0 %font WurlitzerEPdry.SF2 0 3
>
> (I also tried several countless other combinations)
>
> When playing a midi file, the other voices are missing now (as expected), but
> i also don't hear the piano part.
>
>
> QSynth loads the sound file and says in "Channels":
> Channel 1 Bank 0 Prog 3
>
> So i created a MIDI file in Rosegarden that plays fine with the old timidity
> configuration.
> I created the MIDI file with: channel 1, Bank "General Midi", Program 4
> (because the start to count from 1).  I also tried it as Program 3.
>
> Timidity tells me:
> No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 2 - this instrument will not be
> heard
>
> In the second case it tells me:
> No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 3 - this instrument will not be
> heard
>
>
> I'm not sure what i need to do to make timidity play soundfonts or how to map
> soundfonts to MIDI instruments
>
>
> Can anybody tell me what i need to do to play sounds?
>
> I'm also not sure if i need to supply more information, if there are any
> useful tests i could do then please write to me.
>
>
> Thanks for any hints,
> Torsten.
>
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Re: [timidity-talk] Linux, use a SoundFont?

[SATO K. <ke...@ps...>]

Hello,

> bank 0
> dir /usr/share/timidity
> 0 %font WurlitzerEPdry.SF2 0 3

You are mapping prog 3 of bank 0 of SF2 to prog 0 of bank 0 of TiMidity++.

> No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 2 - this instrument will not be
> heard

So for TiMidity++, nothing is mapped to prog 2 of bank 0.


Regards,
Kentaro Sato.

2010/1/23 Torsten Mohr <tmohr@s.netic.de>:
> Hello,
>
> i read the "man page" and read some infos that users put on their web pages,
> but i somehow can't seem to tell timidity to use a soundfont.
>
> I have downloaded some free sound fonts and demos and unpacked them
> so they have the extension .sf2
>
> Timidity seems to load /etc/timidity.cfg, which sources
> /usr/share/timidity/timidity.cfg
>
> I tried in timidity.cfg:
>
> bank 0
> dir /usr/share/timidity
> 0 %font WurlitzerEPdry.SF2 0 3
>
> (I also tried several countless other combinations)
>
> When playing a midi file, the other voices are missing now (as expected), but
> i also don't hear the piano part.
>
>
> QSynth loads the sound file and says in "Channels":
> Channel 1 Bank 0 Prog 3
>
> So i created a MIDI file in Rosegarden that plays fine with the old timidity
> configuration.
> I created the MIDI file with: channel 1, Bank "General Midi", Program 4
> (because the start to count from 1).  I also tried it as Program 3.
>
> Timidity tells me:
> No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 2 - this instrument will not be
> heard
>
> In the second case it tells me:
> No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 3 - this instrument will not be
> heard
>
>
> I'm not sure what i need to do to make timidity play soundfonts or how to map
> soundfonts to MIDI instruments
>
>
> Can anybody tell me what i need to do to play sounds?
>
> I'm also not sure if i need to supply more information, if there are any
> useful tests i could do then please write to me.
>
>
> Thanks for any hints,
> Torsten.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the
> world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference
> attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through
> interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Timidity-talk mailing list
> Tim...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/timidity-talk
>

Re: [timidity-talk] Linux, use a SoundFont?

[Torsten M. <tmohr@s.netic.de>]

Hello,

> > bank 0
> > dir /usr/share/timidity
> > 0 %font WurlitzerEPdry.SF2 0 3
> 
> You are mapping prog 3 of bank 0 of SF2 to prog 0 of bank 0 of TiMidity++.
> 
> > No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 2 - this instrument will not
> > be heard
> 
> So for TiMidity++, nothing is mapped to prog 2 of bank 0.

Thanks a lot.  I've read the man page for timidity.cfg but interpreted
the description there in a different way.

I've now created a MIDI file that uses channel 0, program 0 and
i can hear output from timidity.


Best regards,
Torsten.