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From: Ben D. <be...@th...> - 2006-02-01 19:32:09
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I don't think anyone is using it (I know I'm not), and it's certainly not under active development. I haven't used my palmpilot in years, so I can't recommend any other similar applications. Sorry. -Ben On 1/31/06, Larry Turner <pin...@nt...> wrote: > Is anybody using ThoughtStream? Is there a Palm OS or Pocket PC > application that is similar? > > Thanks, > Larry > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D103432&bid=3D230486&dat= =3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > Thoughtstream-devel mailing list > Tho...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/thoughtstream-devel > |
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From: Larry T. <pin...@nt...> - 2006-01-31 20:01:38
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Is anybody using ThoughtStream? Is there a Palm OS or Pocket PC application that is similar? Thanks, Larry |
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From: Larry T. <pin...@nt...> - 2006-01-31 20:01:12
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Is anybody using ThoughtStream? Is the a Palm OS or Pocket PC application that is similar? Thanks, Larry |
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From: Ben D. <be...@th...> - 2003-09-26 05:52:38
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On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 10:58:33AM +1000, Geoff Crompton wrote: > Can someone tell me which Palm SDK I should use to compile the > thoughtstream-palmos sources? I know it compiled with the 3.0 SDK; I don't know of any issues that would keep it from working with a later SDK (although you'll have to #include <PalmCompatibility.h> or some such to get past the Great Renaming). The compiler, however, is another matter. The Makefile was written for prc-tools 0.5, and it will take some work to make it compile with a modern version of prc-tools (or, heaven forbid, CodeWorrier) -Ben |
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From: Geoff C. <geo...@bj...> - 2003-09-26 00:59:05
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Hi, Can someone tell me which Palm SDK I should use to compile the thoughtstream-palmos sources? Thanks, Geoff Crompton |
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From: Larry K. T. <LK...@me...> - 2003-09-11 18:22:42
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I'm still using TS on my Palm. I would love to see more work done on this = app. I was hoping to do some work on it myself, but I have not had a chanc= e. Larry >>> Dave Bauer <da...@th...> 09/11/03 12:17PM >>> Hi, I still like thoughtstream! I was looking back at the list, and the webDAV ideas are great! Anyway, I was thinking about using a more standard format for thoughtstream data. Probably some XHTML or RDF format of some sort. Is anyone still interested?? Dave --=20 Dave Bauer da...@th...=20 http://www.thedesignexperience.org=20 ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf=20 _______________________________________________ Thoughtstream-devel mailing list Tho...@li...=20 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/thoughtstream-devel=20 ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service._______________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------- Note: Please update your email address for this user to reflect the=20 new MeadWestvaco Corporation. MeadWestvaco employee=20 email addresses are in the format of us...@Me... This electronic message contains information from MeadWestvaco Corporation or subsidiary companies, which may be confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be used solely by the recipient(s) named. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this transmission or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify MeadWestvaco immediately at pos...@Me.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------- ________________________________________________________________________ This=20email=20has=20been=20scanned=20for=20all=20viruses=20by=20the=20Mes= sageLabs=20SkyScan service._______________________________________________________________ Note:=20=20Please=20update=20your=20email=20address=20for=20this=20user=20= to=20reflect=20the new=20MeadWestvaco=20Corporation.=20=20MeadWestvaco=20employee=20email=20a= ddresses are=20in=20the=20format=20of=20...@Me...=20 This=20electronic=20message=20contains=20information=20from=20MeadWestvaco= Corporation=20or=20subsidiary=20companies,=20which=20may=20be=20confidenti= al, privileged=20or=20otherwise=20protected=20from=20disclosure.=20=20The information=20is=20intended=20to=20be=20used=20solely=20by=20the=20recipie= nt(s) named.=20=20If=20you=20are=20not=20an=20intended=20recipient,=20be=20aware= =20that any=20review,=20disclosure,=20copying,=20distribution=20or=20use=20of=20th= is transmission=20or=20its=20contents=20is=20prohibited.=20=20If=20you=20have= received=20this=20transmission=20in=20error,=20please=20notify=20MeadWestv= aco immediately=20at=20p...@Me.... _______________________________________________________________________ |
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From: Dave B. <da...@th...> - 2003-09-11 16:17:26
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Hi, I still like thoughtstream! I was looking back at the list, and the webDAV ideas are great! Anyway, I was thinking about using a more standard format for thoughtstream data. Probably some XHTML or RDF format of some sort. Is anyone still interested?? Dave -- Dave Bauer da...@th... http://www.thedesignexperience.org |
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From: Dave B. <da...@th...> - 2003-03-18 15:17:00
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Has anyone investigated using any of these Wiki like products with thoughtstream? http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PalmWiki BTW, I still want to continue working on thoughtstream, but have been too busy with other work lately. -- Dave Bauer da...@th... http://www.thedesignexperience.org |
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From: Larry K. T. <LK...@me...> - 2003-01-15 13:17:09
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I was using it to keep track of information in a hierarchical format. I ha= ve recently put this information in the MemoPad using MegaWiki, but I reall= y don't like the way it works. I think I'll go back to TS when I get a cha= nce. I was also hoping to put some troubleshooting guides in TS, but because it = isn't completely stable I had not started that yet. This would be informat= ion used by others in my department and not all of them are techie types. = One crash of an app and they think it is junk. Personally I can live with = the instability. At one time I had hoped to have enough time to look into doing some work on= TS, but that never seems to come. I do programming in Basic and have done= some in c, but I have not tackled anything for the Palm OS yet. I would love to see this application brought back to live. And would be gl= ad to help as I can. Please keep me posted. Larry >>> Dave Bauer <da...@th...> 01/14/03 11:34PM >>> Hi, Is anyone actually using TS? If so for what? I think that it is a really interesting application, but I am not quite sure what I should be doing with it. Thanks. Dave --=20 Dave Bauer da...@th...=20 http://www.thedesignexperience.org=20 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Take your first step towards giving=20 your online business a competitive advantage. Test-drive a Thawte SSL=20 certificate - our easy online guide will show you how. Click here to get=20 started: http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0027en=20 _______________________________________________ Thoughtstream-devel mailing list Tho...@li...=20 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/thoughtstream-devel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------- Note: Please update your email address for this user to reflect the=20 new MeadWestvaco Corporation. MeadWestvaco employee=20 email addresses are in the format of us...@Me... This electronic message contains information from MeadWestvaco Corporation or subsidiary companies, which may be confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be used solely by the recipient(s) named. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this transmission or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify MeadWestvaco immediately at pos...@Me.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------- |
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From: Dave B. <da...@th...> - 2003-01-15 04:34:58
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Hi, Is anyone actually using TS? If so for what? I think that it is a really interesting application, but I am not quite sure what I should be doing with it. Thanks. Dave -- Dave Bauer da...@th... http://www.thedesignexperience.org |
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From: Larry K. T. <LK...@me...> - 2003-01-02 16:31:45
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>>> Dave Bauer <da...@th...> 12/27/02 03:08AM >>> >Hi, >I tried the desktop version with the latest Python 2.2 and it does not=20 >seem to work. I noticed a post a while back that it did not work with=20 >Python 1.6, so it probably does not work with 2.2. >Thoughtstream looks like an application I would like to use on PalmOS=20 >and the desktop, so I am willing to work on getting the desktop version=20 >running on the latest version of Python. >Is this work currently being done? Should I coordinate with anyone. Is=20 >this something others would be interested is using? I would love to see the continuation of development on TS. This was one of= the apps I had the highest hopes for when I was looking to develop some Tr= oubleshooting guides. I have tried several other apps (Plucker, Docs2Go, M= egaWiki) All of these have fallen short of my needs. I wish I had the tim= e to assist in development, but I have too many other projects going on now. >Dave Bauer >da...@th...=20 >http://www.thedesignexperience.org=20 ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf=20 _______________________________________________ Thoughtstream-devel mailing list Tho...@li...=20 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/thoughtstream-devel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------- Note: Please update your email address for this user to reflect the=20 new MeadWestvaco Corporation. MeadWestvaco employee=20 email addresses are in the format of us...@Me... This electronic message contains information from MeadWestvaco Corporation or subsidiary companies, which may be confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be used solely by the recipient(s) named. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this transmission or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify MeadWestvaco immediately at pos...@Me.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------- |
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From: Dave B. <da...@th...> - 2002-12-31 04:38:12
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I fixed the changed XML syntax and also changed one place where the wrong type was passed to a wxWindows method. I now have thoughtstream loading under Linux and Windows. I'll make up a patch and submit it tomorrow. It looks like the basic functions still might need tweaking in the wxWindows department. My goal right now if to get it to the same state of functioning as it was under Python 1.5. After that we'll see about new work. Dave |
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From: Ben D. <be...@th...> - 2002-12-30 06:12:23
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 03:08:00AM -0500, Dave Bauer wrote: > Hi, > > I tried the desktop version with the latest Python 2.2 and it does not > seem to work. I noticed a post a while back that it did not work with > Python 1.6, so it probably does not work with 2.2. I don't think the changes since Python 1.5 will make much difference (if any). It's probably changes to wxPython that are causing the problems you're seeing. I expect it's just a few minor changes, but identifying and tracking them all down could take some time. > > Thoughtstream looks like an application I would like to use on PalmOS > and the desktop, so I am willing to work on getting the desktop version > running on the latest version of Python. You should be warned that synchronization between the Palm and desktop version is more-or-less completely broken now due to changes in Pyrite (and it never worked on Windows in the first place). The synchronization modules needs to be reimplemented using pilot-link's python binding. > > Is this work currently being done? Should I coordinate with anyone. Is > this something others would be interested is using? I don't really have the time to give ThoughtStream the work it needs, but I'd be happy to advise you or anyone else who wants to work on it. -Ben -- Ben Darnell be...@th... http://thoughtstream.org Finger bgd...@de... for PGP/GPG key 1024D/1F06E509 |
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From: Dave B. <da...@th...> - 2002-12-27 03:08:06
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Hi, I tried the desktop version with the latest Python 2.2 and it does not seem to work. I noticed a post a while back that it did not work with Python 1.6, so it probably does not work with 2.2. Thoughtstream looks like an application I would like to use on PalmOS and the desktop, so I am willing to work on getting the desktop version running on the latest version of Python. Is this work currently being done? Should I coordinate with anyone. Is this something others would be interested is using? Dave Bauer da...@th... http://www.thedesignexperience.org |
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From: Marcus <li...@wo...> - 2002-06-24 21:34:50
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>I'm trying to launch Touchgraph from one of my Linux browsers >(Konqueror, Mozilla) but it won't run, I suppose I don't have the right plug-in. >What plug-in do I need, and where can I download it? I think it's only Java you need. I doubt Konqueror would work with it. I would recommend Opera 6 on Linux with Java. Much faster than Mozilla (lacks mail in the Linux version though). My IE 6 crashes and causes mouse clicks to stop working when I use Touchgraph. Opera with Java works fine on Windows with Touchgraph, so I'm guessing it should work on Linux too. The rpm is statically linked so it should run on most distros. Marcus |
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From: Ben D. <be...@th...> - 2002-06-22 18:46:29
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Marcus wrote: >Just to clarify. Your TS databases need to be in XML format so that >Prima can import them. I don't know how you output to XML from TS >because I don't have a Palm computer. However, since the one Ben sent >me was XML, I guess there must be an automated process for this. Maybe >somebody else can explain the process for the others? > >Btw, is the native TS format binary? I received a .pdb database. > > > The Palm version of TS uses a packed binary format. Unfortunately, the existing conversion process relies on some software (Pyrite) that is no longer readily available (it's been replaced by Pyrite Publisher, which is not compatible). For those of you with data trapped in TS-Palm that you'd like to get out, you can try this (untested) script. Instructions: Place both files (ts-pdb2xml.py and prc.py) in the same directory. If you don't already have it, install Python. Get the Thoughtstream code (either from CVS or the last zipped release) and put the second directory named thoughtstream (the one that contains Mind.py) in the same place as the two files from this message. On Unix, run ts-pdb2xml.py and give it the pdb filenames on the command line. On Windows, you should be able to drag-and-drop pdb files onto the ts-pdb2xml.py icon. -Ben -- Ben Darnell be...@th... http://thoughtstream.org Finger bgd...@de... for PGP/GPG key 1024D/1F06E509 |
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From: Marcus <li...@wo...> - 2002-06-22 18:07:22
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I've set up a separate list for Prima on yahoogroups, since discussion may digress from TS now. Anybody interested in Prima wanting to voice feature requests, and discuss useage concepts is invited to join. Send a mail to: pri...@ya... When it's on-topic with TS, or there's a major update then I'll post a note here also. Marcus Thanks, Marcus http://www.wordit.com/prima/ |
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From: Marcus <li...@wo...> - 2002-06-22 05:40:11
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Just to clarify. Your TS databases need to be in XML format so that Prima can import them. I don't know how you output to XML from TS because I don't have a Palm computer. However, since the one Ben sent me was XML, I guess there must be an automated process for this. Maybe somebody else can explain the process for the others? Btw, is the native TS format binary? I received a .pdb database. Marcus |
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From: Marcus <ma...@wo...> - 2002-06-21 06:26:08
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Hi All, Prima can now import your TS databases (XML) ! I tested it with a DB Ben supplied. The most exciting new feature though is something I never thought of in the original plan. You can easily export an entire database to a website with one click. I made the new website for Prima this way. So you can concentrate on the content and let Prima create the site. The other major thing is the "Export Collector". You can collect topics/notes into one single document and export in RTF, HTML, text formats. Handy for word-processing or single web documents. Printing is also available. The website is now up with screenshots at: http://www.wordit.com/prima/ New features in detail: Prima Preview 4: - Import Thoughtstream (Lucid) databases - Website creation: One click export of entire database to a website, including images. Use any design by using templates. The Prima website itself was created this way! See: http://www.wordit.com/prima/ (Notes: Currently need to rename custom templates to templates/prima_main.tmpl. Need to manually rename starting page to "index.html". Image linked files not yet copied automatically. Changes to follow in next version.) - Export Collector: Output any number of topics to a single document in RTF, HTML or plain text. Or Print/Print preview the document. - New tabbed interface - Insert images directly into topics - Print and print preview current browser page - Set home topic - Set editing font Direct download from: http://www.newnotions.com/download/prima_setup.exe "I'm new, what are talking about?" Prima is a desktop application similar to Lucid and Thoughtstream. Please let me know how it runs, and what you think. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks, Marcus |
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From: Ben D. <be...@th...> - 2002-06-12 05:07:56
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I'm back! I moved to California to start my new job at Google a couple weeks ago, and haven't had decent internet access until today. I don't mind these sorts of discussions of other projects taking place on this list (at least as long as the traffic stays low) On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:28:50AM +0200, Marcus wrote: > So that would be one difference to using a flat-file. Speed may welll > be another. Just take memes.net and try sifting that from a flat-file. > Ben imported memes.net (in part) to TS so maybe he can comment on the > speed issue. May depened on your XML or CSV parser. > Also, I guess you are limited on the PalmOS, so a DB may not be an > option. Portability was presumably Ben's main consideration for using a > flat file if TS was to run on PalmOS, Linux, Windows? TS has used XML text files on the desktop, and binary/packed records on PalmOS. I had a prototype desktop version that stored its data in a mysql db and ran as a cgi. The Palm has to use its own format anyway, so that was not a consideration in the use of flat files on the desktop. The main advantage of XML files is that they are easy to understand in a text editor and make a good interchange format between different applications. Parsing and writing the XML becomes unacceptably slow with large data sets. An SQL database is one way to speed things up, and it's probably the best for sufficiently large datasets (i.e. bigger than available RAM). For in-between sizes other possible solutions are also attractive (e.g. Zope's Object Database) -Ben -- Ben Darnell be...@th... http://thoughtstream.org Finger bgd...@de... for PGP/GPG key 1024D/1F06E509 |
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From: Marcus <li...@wo...> - 2002-05-31 06:28:56
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Matthew Tuck wrote: >> - All SQL joins split for speed (5-10 times faster on large databases >> such as memes.net) >I'm interested in this statement - I presume this means that you are >using a database to store things rather than a flat file. >I had considered using a database for the similar application I'm >writing, but am now heading towards a file storage. What were the >reasons you decided to go with a database? Originally I wrote Prima for the web (CGI), about 1.5 - 2 years ago using Mysql. So the code was database ready :-) I just needed to find a DB for the desktop because Mysql is too complicated for people to set up. Just as it looked as though I may not find a cross-platform DB, and have to use you-know-who's bloated products, I discovered SQLite, which is great. Public domain, small, fast, cross-platform. C/C++, Python and Perl access :-) (www.hwaci.com) Back to TS: My main "problem" (read extra work) converting between Prima and TS is that TS generates it's own alpha-numerical ids whereas Prima lets the DB auto-increment integers, as does Lucid. So that would be one difference to using a flat-file. Speed may welll be another. Just take memes.net and try sifting that from a flat-file. Ben imported memes.net (in part) to TS so maybe he can comment on the speed issue. May depened on your XML or CSV parser. Also, I guess you are limited on the PalmOS, so a DB may not be an option. Portability was presumably Ben's main consideration for using a flat file if TS was to run on PalmOS, Linux, Windows? In general I prefer a DB, just as a matter of personal preference. Also, I can switch DB applications and leave the SQL queries (Well, 95%). A great benefit after 1.5 years away from the code :-) Marcus |
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From: MattyT <ma...@ch...> - 2002-05-31 02:46:09
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Marcus wrote: > - All SQL joins split for speed (5-10 times faster on large databases > such as memes.net) I'm interested in this statement - I presume this means that you are using a database to store things rather than a flat file. I had considered using a database for the similar application I'm writing, but am now heading towards a file storage. What were the reasons you decided to go with a database? -- Matthew Tuck: Software Developer & All-Round Nice Guy My Short Autobiography: 1985 Grade Bin Monitor 1990 Class Clown Award 1992 Awarded Most Likely To Spontaneously Combust 1996 Crowned Galactic Emperor 1998 Released From Smith Psychiatric Hospital |
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From: MattyT <ma...@ch...> - 2002-05-31 02:42:15
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Given Ben didn't seem to have a problem with the advertising of Prima I
felt I'd pipe in and mention of have been working on a information
organising program as well.
It's not to the stage where I'm prepared to post anything at the moment,
but those of you who remember my messages to this list should be able to
derive where I'm going to be going and how it differs from the design of
current programs.
It is a GNOME application, so if you're using another environment,
sorry. =)
It is of course front-end/back-end separated so you should be able to
add a new front end, but I have no interest supporting those other
environments.
Development hasn't been altogether speedy, for various reasons,
including I was a little rusty on C++, I'm learning new libraries (ie
Bakery) and my ideas on this mean more architectural work needs to get
done than in competing projects.
But when I reach version 0.1, you'll all know about it. =)
--
Matthew Tuck: Software Developer & All-Round Nice Guy
My Short Autobiography: 1985 Grade Bin Monitor 1990 Class Clown Award
1992 Awarded Most Likely To Spontaneously Combust 1996 Crowned Galactic
Emperor 1998 Released From Smith Psychiatric Hospital
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From: Marcus <ma...@wo...> - 2002-05-24 18:45:49
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Preview 3 of Prima is available from: http://www.newnotions.com/download/prima_setup.exe Prima is a desktop application similar to Lucid and Thoughtstream. (Please see the donations.txt file for the development phase, especially those who would like to see a Linux version.) New features: - Multiple Parent nodes - Import Internet Explorer bookmarks (please test on Win9x) - Insert links: local, file or application, http,ftp - New samples - Delete topics - Create and remove links between topics - All SQL joins split for speed (5-10 times faster on large databases such as memes.net) - Application Icon - Maximizes window on startup (Let me know if this is not wanted. Normal on Windows, but Linux users may not like it.) Note: In case you want to work with an old database from preview 1 or 2, the previous databases will work, but you will need to create parent links (remove old link, create new one), since Prima now uses multiple parents. Please let me know how it runs, and what you think. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks, Marcus |
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From: Ben D. <be...@th...> - 2002-05-18 04:24:58
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On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 04:10:56AM +0200, Marcus wrote: > Does anybody have a sample TS database (XML) they could share for > development? (Or one you could remove private data from?) I've got something I'll send to you off the list. > > I've managed to import the whole of memes.net (Lucid) into my new > application, Prima, I announced a week or so ago. (Lucid exports using > the TS format in XML.) > The current problem is that Lucid's export functions might need some > work (needed several manual changes to the data). So I'd like to try > some TS data, also because memes.net is quite large. It's been a while since I imported memes.net into TS, but I recall some character-set issues, or maybe some improperly-escaped characters. Is that what you're referring to? And yes, it is quite large. I've got a truncated (and outdated) copy of memes.net for testing purposes; it's got all the links but only the first ~hundred bytes of each node's content. > Otherwise, I'll keep you updated as to when a new preview is available. > The next one should have all of TS's, and Lucid's functions. Cool. Keep us posted. -Ben -- Ben Darnell be...@th... http://thoughtstream.org Finger bgd...@de... for PGP/GPG key 1024D/1F06E509 |
