LilyIssues / Issues / #4981 Web: Remove links to gmane throughout Website

Federico Bruni - 2016-10-25

Not only the web manual, also the footer used in all manuals should be fixed:

python/auxiliar/postprocess_html.py:footer_report_links = _doc ('We welcome your aid; please <a href="%(help_us_url)s">help us</a> by reporting errors to our <a href="%(mail_address_url)s">bug list</a>.')

What should we use as replacement?
Probably this one: https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond

... and we should also ask the mailing list admin to remove this sentence:

You can post a message without subscribing by using the Gmane interface at
http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.bugs

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- Anonymous - 2017-10-07
  
  I am going to create a separate tracker for the removal of gmane in the 'footers' and work on it there.
  
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Federico Bruni - 2016-10-25

We may suggest that bug-lilypond is a low traffic mailing list, so subscribing to it should not be a problem... And maybe suggest that even if you must be subscribed to be able to write to the mailing list, you can disable receiving the messages from the list and still receiving replies to your messages, as our convention is replying to all and not to the list only (but this may be risky or change in the future).

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- David Kastrup - 2016-10-25
  
  We may suggest that bug-lilypond is a low traffic mailing list, so subscribing to it should not be a problem...
  
  I don't think it would well be characterized as low-traffic, but do you really need to be subscribed in order to write to it? It's probably less work for our list moderator if you are but I don't think that your mails otherwise will get lost. No guarantees though.
  
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David R. Linn - 2016-10-25

TL;WR? I believe Frederico is correct in saying that there is no longer any reason to steer people to gmane.

I don't set policy for the mailing lists - I just follow/enforce the policies set by the project leadership. (I'll admit I'm not really sure who that is nowadays but David Kastrup is definitely on my personal list of Lilypond leaders.)

The Lilypond mailing lists are moderated ... to prevent spam from swamping the lists. That you think any of these are low-volume lists is actually a sign that this configuration is successful; the moderators (plural) are doing a good job of stripping spam from the input stream.

Because the moderators let through almost anything through to a Lilypond list that is relevant to the purpose of that list, it's not really necessary to go through gmane to post as a non-subscriber. If a message is relevant, it will still be posted.

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Thomas Wilmot - 2016-12-14

I know that Gmane has been down for months now, but according to http://gmane.org/about/, it's just being rebuilt and will be back in commission RealSoonNow™!

I have used Gmane to post to the LilyPond mailing list since I started six years ago!

Given that the average person has never heard of an electronic mailing list nor IRC, I think it would be more important to lower the barriers for new users!

I think a link to this page on Wikipedia which explains the unfamiliar concept very well, as well as this page on IRC.

I guess I'm talking more about http://lilypond.org/contact.html than the bugs page, because it you're posting in the Bugs list than you probably know what a mailing list is.

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Simon Albrecht - 2016-12-14

status: New --> Accepted
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Anonymous - 2017-10-07

Community.itexi - Contact us section

Issue 4981 - Patch 1

'Contact us' section

Removal of all references
to gmane.

http://codereview.appspot.com/331850043

Last edit: Anonymous 2017-10-07

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Anonymous - 2017-10-07

Passes make, make check and a full make doc.

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+Issue 4981 - Patch 1
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+'Contact us' section
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+Removal of all references
+to gmane.
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+http://codereview.appspot.com/331850043
+
 On 06/10/16 18:18, Lee Zipin wrote:
 > (Not a bug in the conventional sense ... )  The page
 > http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html offers a link to post.gmane.org as the

Patch: new --> review

Anonymous - 2017-10-07

Passes make, make check and a full make doc

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Anonymous - 2017-10-11

Patch: review --> countdown
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Anonymous - 2017-10-11

Patch on countdown for Oct 14th

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Anonymous - 2017-10-14

Patch: countdown --> push
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Anonymous - 2017-10-14

Patch counted down - please push

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-Issue 4981 - Patch 1
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-Removal of all references
-to gmane.
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-http://codereview.appspot.com/331850043
+Patch 1 -  fd4a46abc5eb06631487347464e5de570e17e369 - pushed

 On 06/10/16 18:18, Lee Zipin wrote:
 > (Not a bug in the conventional sense ... )  The page

Patch: push -->

author  James Lowe <pkx166h@gmail.com>  
    Sat, 14 Oct 2017 12:31:12 +0100 (12:31 +0100)
committer   James Lowe <pkx166h@gmail.com>  
    Sat, 14 Oct 2017 12:31:12 +0100 (12:31 +0100)
commit  fd4a46abc5eb06631487347464e5de570e17e369

Anonymous - 2017-10-17

Remove more links to gmane throughout Website

Issue 4981

Remove the rest of the links
to gmane throughout the Website
and other pages in the documentation.

Note the remaining links are historical
or are left as an available reference.

http://codereview.appspot.com/333900043

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Anonymous - 2017-10-17

Passes make, make check and a full make doc.

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Anonymous - 2017-10-17

Needs: -->

Patch: new --> review

Type: --> Documentation
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+Remove more links to gmane throughout Website
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+Issue 4981
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+Remove the rest of the links
+to gmane throughout the Website
+and other pages in the documentation.
+
+Note the remaining links are historical
+or are left as an available reference.
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+http://codereview.appspot.com/333900043
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 Patch 1 -  fd4a46abc5eb06631487347464e5de570e17e369 - pushed

 On 06/10/16 18:18, Lee Zipin wrote:

Anonymous - 2017-10-20

Patch: review --> countdown
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Anonymous - 2017-10-20

Patch on countdown for Oct 23rd

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Anonymous - 2017-10-23

Patch: countdown --> push
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Anonymous - 2017-10-23

Patch counted down - please push

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