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#3900 Semibreves of different size should be center-aligned

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2015-09-04
2014-04-06
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Originally created by: *anonymous

Originally created by: pkx1...@gmail.com

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff:     NoteHead alignment with no stem
Datum:     Tue, 01 Apr 2014 00:59:08 +0200
Von:     Simon Albrecht <simon.albrecht@mail.de>
An:     bug-lilypond@gnu.org

Hello,

{
  <c' \tweak font-size #-3 e'>1
  <c'' \tweak font-size #-3 e''>
}
produces two chords with two semibreves each, the one normal-sized, the other smaller.

The attached output from 2.19.3 shows that they are (left-/right-)aligned as if they had stems. This looks ill-balanced, in my eyes they should rather be center-aligned (and I might say I've already seen this in printed music, but it's not like I could give an example or confirm that it's authoritative in any way...).

If I understood it correctly, chord notes have invisible stems, even if no stem is printed, which would serve as an explanation. However, the behaviour is the same with two voices instead of a chord, when there is no stem at all:

<< e'1 \\ { \override NoteHead. font-size = #-3 c'1 } >>

Just didn't want to leave it unmentioned
Best regards,

Simon

P.S. Forgot to point out the similarity to issue 3543
<https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3543> with harmonic notes.

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  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2014-08-09

    Originally posted by: janek.li...@gmail.com

    > If I understood it correctly, chord notes have invisible stems, even if no stem
    > is printed, which would serve as an explanation. However, the behaviour is the
    > same with two voices instead of a chord, when there is no stem at all:

    AFAIK this is not correct: there is always a stem, visible or not - both for chords and single notes.

    Anyway, you write that the noteheads in these examples should be centered.  I always thought that the noteheads should be "left-aligned" to the corresponding musical moment - especially since they are left-aligned in case of quarters vs wholes:

    << e'1 \\ c'4 >>

    So, i think that we need some examples from respected publishers and/or opinions from authorities to settle what the desired output should be.

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2015-07-07

    Originally posted by: simon.al...@mail.de

    (No comment was entered for this change.)

    Summary: Semibreves in chords are left-aligned
    Labels: Needs-design

     
  • Simon Albrecht

    Simon Albrecht - 2015-08-31
    • summary: Semibreves in chords are left-aligned --> Semibreves of different size should be center-aligned
    • Description has changed:

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    • Patch: -->
     
  • Simon Albrecht

    Simon Albrecht - 2015-09-04
     
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