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#3716 website: point strongly to Frescobaldi/Denemo (for new users)

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2016-06-23
2013-12-08
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Originally created by: *anonymous

Originally created by: fedel...@gmail.com

Discussion:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-12/msg00272.html

Modify the LilyPond website and Learning Manual to point
strongly to Frescobaldi and maybe Denemo as the recommended
starting points for new users, rather than downloading just LP.
These then become the primary LP entry points for new users.

Also the Usage manual, chapter 1 "Normal usage", should be updated. I would replace "Normal usage" title with some more specific, e.g. "Editors", "IDE Editors".

Denemo already bundles lilypond in the windows and mac binaries. Denemo developer is not sure about linux, but I _believe_ it is bundled in linux as well, because in debian sid lilypond is recommended, not a dependency:

$ apt-cache depends denemo | grep lilypond
  Recommends: lilypond

Frescobaldi team is thinking about adding a prompt to install lilypond:
https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/313

I  think that, when this is implemented in Frescobaldi, someone can tackle this issue.

Discussion

  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2013-12-08

    Originally posted by: lilyli...@googlemail.com

    Actually I'm already working on updating the website content. I'm reviewing it from the perspective of potential new users.
    The first patches are nearly ready for review (although they won't cover this issue yet)

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2013-12-08

    Originally posted by: fedel...@gmail.com

    Well, lilypond is just recommended by the debian package of denemo BUT apt-get installs recommended packages, so it should be ok.

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2013-12-18

    Originally posted by: gra...@percival-music.ca

    isn't Frescobaldi only available on osx through macports?  That isn't something suitable for new users.

    Any recommendations need to be easily available on linux, osx, and windows.

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2013-12-18

    Originally posted by: dak@gnu.org

    a) we might differentiate between different systems in our recommendations
    b) I could imagine Macports to be the lesser evil for a "new user"

    But we'd need more info for choice b) from actual MacOSX users.

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2013-12-18

    Originally posted by: lilyli...@googlemail.com

    Am 18.12.2013 12:55, schrieb lilypond@googlecode.com:

    Davide Liessi, who has worked most on Frescobaldi on Mac has already
    started considering this issue and will soon write us about his thoughts.

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2014-04-23

    Originally posted by: lilyli...@googlemail.com

    I have also immediately related this to the current issue, and I think it will be relevant as soon as it is tested enough and as soon as it is part of the next (?) Frescobaldi release.

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2015-07-18

    Originally posted by: fedel...@gmail.com

    (No comment was entered for this change.)

    Labels: website

     
  • Federico Bruni

    Federico Bruni - 2016-06-23
    • Description has changed:

    Diff:

    --- old
    +++ new
    @@ -10,6 +10,8 @@
     starting points for new users, rather than downloading just LP.
     These then become the primary LP entry points for new users.
    
    +Also the Usage manual, chapter 1 "Normal usage", should be updated. I would replace "Normal usage" title with some more specific, e.g. "Editors", "IDE Editors".
    +
     Denemo already bundles lilypond in the windows and mac binaries. Denemo developer is not sure about linux, but I \_believe\_ it is bundled in linux as well, because in debian sid lilypond is recommended, not a dependency:
    
     $ apt-cache depends denemo | grep lilypond
    
    • Needs: -->
    • Patch: -->
     
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