#347 document that ragged-bottom = #t overrides ragged-last-bottom

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Originally created by: *anonymous

Originally created by: gpermus@gmail.com

%% ragged-last-bottom=##f doesn't work if ragged-bottom is set to true

\version "2.11.21"
\paper{
  ragged-right=##t
  ragged-bottom=##t
  ragged-last-bottom=##f
}
\score{
  \new Staff{
    \unfoldRepeats { \repeat volta 18 { c' d' e' f' \break} }
  }
}

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Originally posted by: joenee...@gmail.com

This is the same behaviour as we use for ragged-right and ragged-last, and it seems
sane to me (although I guess it isn't documented: if ragged-bottom is true, then it
overrides ragged-last-bottom). Is there a compelling reason to support a
configuration where we want to space the last page (or line) nicely while all the
previous pages (or lines) are ragged?

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Originally posted by: nyag...@gmail.com

This arose from a really nasty page turn.  The score (for 2 violas) is 4 pages, with only one rest.  The page-use
is:
- 60% of a page
- 50% of a page  (ending with a 4-bar rest for one viola)
- 100%
- 100%

The last page would look slightly better if it were spread evenly, but the second page looks ridiculous when it
was spread.  That said, this is a highly unusual occurance, and I won't object if we just update the docs with
this info and close the issue.

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Originally posted by: nyag...@gmail.com

Mao, I forgot I was logged in to google as a different user.  This is Graham; the account is my throw-away
massively-spammed account.

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Originally posted by: joenee...@gmail.com

Ragged is currently used in 2 ways: to determine the page breaking (what looks good
normally might look bad with ragged spacing) and for actually laying out the systems.
What if we put in some functionality to separate these uses and allowed better tuning
for the part that doesn't affect page breaking? This is much nicer because things are
tricky if we want to enhance the page-breaking effects of ragged.

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Originally posted by: lemzw...@googlemail.com

Can you give an example where `ragged page breaking' gives a different appearance?  I
can't imagine a situation where page breaking depends on raggedness and not on the
available vertical (stretchable?) space.

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Originally posted by: joenee...@gmail.com

In ragged spacing, we refuse to compress springs and we don't penalize the last page
for bad layout. AFAICR, these are the only differences and they apply to both
vertical and horizontal spacing.

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Originally posted by: dak@gnu.org

Issue 347: document that ragged-bottom = #t overrides ragged-last-bottom

http://codereview.appspot.com/257280043

Summary: document that ragged-bottom = #t overrides ragged-last-bottom
Owner: dak@gnu.org
Labels: -Type-Defect -Priority-Medium Type-Documentation Patch-new
Status: Started

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Originally posted by: pkx1...@gmail.com

Passes make, make check and a full make doc.

Labels: -Patch-new Patch-review

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Originally posted by: dak@gnu.org

(No comment was entered for this change.)

Labels: -Patch-review Patch-abandoned
Owner: ---
Status: Accepted

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Originally posted by: tdanielsmusic

The patch was abandoned after it was realised that the change could not unambiguously be considered an improvement.  In fact the current wording is correct and actually succinctly covers the point of this issue, although the meaning is rather subtle.  There was no support for elaborating it.

Closing the issue as invalid.

Status: Invalid