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#2309 Stem separating dot from notehead

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2015-03-11
2012-02-10
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Originally created by: *anonymous

Originally created by: ma...@gregoriana.sk

Reported by Nick Payne:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2012-02/msg00463.html

With overlapping parts, Lilypond defaults to separating a dot from its notehead by placing the overlapping stem in between. According to Gould (p.57) this is incorrect. The overlapped stem should be placed after the dot.

\version "2.15.25"

\relative c' {
<< { c2 s c'4. } \\ { g2. s4 c, } \\ { s1 g'4 } >>
}

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  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2012-02-10

    Originally posted by: janek.li... (code.google.com)@gmail.com

    This is not unintentional behavior, and personally i think that Gould is wrong here.
    Here's an article on music engraving that supports Lily behavior: http://icking-music-archive.org/lists/sottisier/sottieng.pdf (section 1.8)

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2012-02-10

    Originally posted by: lemzw...@googlemail.com

    It depends.  You might have a look at the Bärenreiter Urtext edition
    of Bachs Chaconne for Violin solo (from the second partita BWV 1004)
    -- sorry for not sending a scan since I don't have the score); I think
    that Gould's solution would make it illegible.

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2012-02-12

    Originally posted by: janek.li... (code.google.com)@gmail.com

    I don't have it, either.
    I guess that Lily behavior should depend on context; i think we cannot say anything specific until we get some scans.

    Labels: Needs-evidence

     
  • Google Importer

    Google Importer - 2015-03-11

    Originally posted by: simon.al...@mail.de

    I attach some examples from Breitkopf & Härtel 1879 which confirm the view of #c1 and #c2. Note the inconsistency about placing a dot between two stems; dot columns are mostly retained.

     
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