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Today's Topics:

  1. Meeting and session in London (?yvind Eide)
  2. Re: Meeting and session in London (Sebastian Rahtz)
  3. Meeting and session in London (?yvind Eide)
  4. Re: Meeting and session in London (?yvind Eide)
  5. Re: Meeting and session in London (Sebastian Rahtz)
  6. Re: Meeting and session in London (Stuart A. Yeates)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:36:52 +0200
From: ?yvind Eide <oyvind.eide@edd.uio.no>
Subject: [TEI-ontology-SIG] Meeting and session in London
To: tei-ontology-sig@lists.sourceforge.net
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Dear all,

In just a few weeks time, the TEI Menbers Meeting will be held in
London (http://www.cch.kcl.ac.uk/cocoon/tei2008/index.html). Our group
will have quite a lot of time to discuss: There will be a panel called
"Connecting TEI to External Conceptual Models as a Method for
Information Integration" on Thursday, papers in other sessions with
relevance to our work, as well as a full day meeting on Saturday.

To be able to plan the Saturday meeting, it would be very nice if you
could tell me:

- Will you be there at the Saturday meeting?

- Do you have something you want to present during the meeting?

- Are there specific topics you want to discuss?

Based on the feed-back, I will set up a preliminary program for the
meeting, hopefully next week.


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/ Kind regards,
/ ?yvind Eide, Unit for Digital Documentation, University of Oslo
| Postal adr.: P.O. Box 1123 Blindern, N-0317 OSLO, Norway
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:23:45 +0100
From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [TEI-ontology-SIG] Meeting and session in London
To: ?yvind Eide <oyvind.eide@edd.uio.no>
Cc: tei-ontology-sig@lists.sourceforge.net
Message-ID: <48EE8471.8030709@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
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?yvind Eide wrote:

> To be able to plan the Saturday meeting, it would be very nice if you
> could tell me:
>
> - Will you be there at the Saturday meeting?

I plan to be at ontology this year

> - Do you have something you want to present during the meeting?
>
> - Are there specific topics you want to discuss?

I'm working on a project at the moment where the intention
is to amalgamate data from different collections using
CIDOC-CRM concepts. The collection I have to deliver for
is done in TEI XML. So I'm looking for discussion of
whether/how others are actually deliving CIDOC from TEI
source.


--
Sebastian Rahtz
Information Manager, Oxford University Computing Services
13 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6NN. Phone +44 1865 283431




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:28:29 +0100
From: ?yvind Eide <oyvind.eide@edd.uio.no>
Subject: [TEI-ontology-SIG] Meeting and session in London
To: tei-ontology-sig@lists.sourceforge.net
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Dear all,

The meeting of the Ontologies SIG will be on Saturday November 8 from
9.30 onwards, in room G03.

The main topic of the meeting will be to go through TEI and continue
to define mappings to CIDOC-CRM, both based on the standard as such
and on specific documents compliant to it.

Other matters can also be discussed should they arise. If anyone has
something they want to discuss, please write an email about it, or
just bring it to the meeting.


--

/ Kind regards,
/ ?yvind Eide, Unit for Digital Documentation, University of Oslo
| Postal adr.: P.O. Box 1123 Blindern, N-0317 OSLO, Norway
\ Phone: + 47 22 85 49 88   Fax: + 47 22 85 49 83
\ http://www.edd.uio.no/



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:26:22 +0100
From: ?yvind Eide <oyvind.eide@edd.uio.no>
Subject: Re: [TEI-ontology-SIG] Meeting and session in London
To: tei-ontology-sig@lists.sourceforge.net
Message-ID: <20081129002622.GC1057@grimus.uio.no>
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The minutes from the meeting are now out on the Wiki. I apologise for
the delay in publishing them.

http://www.tei-c.org/wiki/index.php/SIG:Ontologies

Please comment on any mistakes!


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:23:19 +0000
From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [TEI-ontology-SIG] Meeting and session in London
To: ?yvind Eide <oyvind.eide@edd.uio.no>
Cc: tei-ontology-sig@lists.sourceforge.net
Message-ID: <49331257.3050701@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
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Following on that very useful session, I have
been implementing a conversion to RDF of my example
text. This not complete yet, but one part of it
may interested people.

I wanted to take this summary and make it into RDF:

            <listPlace>
                <place xml:id="Cyprus">
                    <placeName>
                        <region>Cyprus</region>
                    </placeName>
                </place>
           </listPlace>
            <listPerson>

                <person xml:id="V-65834">
                    <sex value="1"/>
                    <persName type="full" nymRef="#Zwa1lios">
                        <forename>???????</forename>
                    </persName>
                    <birth notAfter="-0375" notBefore="-0425">
                        <placeName key="Cyprus">Cyprus</placeName>
                    </birth>
                </person>
            </listPerson>


and ended up with this:


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<rdf:RDF xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#"
         xmlns="http://cidoc.ics.forth.gr/rdfs/cidoc_v4.2.rdfs#"
         xmlns:claros="http://www.claros.net/temporal#"
         xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
   <E53.Place
rdf:about="http://clas-lgpn2.classics.ox.ac.uk/placeid/d1e77">
      <P87F.is_identified_by>
         <E44.Place_Appellation>
            <rdf:value>Cyprus</rdf:value>
         </E44.Place_Appellation>
      </P87F.is_identified_by>
   </E53.Place>
   <E21.Person rdf:about="http://clas-lgpn2.classics.ox.ac.uk/id/V-65834">
      <P131F.is_identified_by>
         <E82.Actor_Appellation>
            <rdf:value>???????</rdf:value>
         </E82.Actor_Appellation>
      </P131F.is_identified_by>
      <P98B.was_born>
         <E67.Birth>
            <P4F.has_time-span>
               <E52.Time-Span>
                  <P79F.at_some_time_within>
                     <E61.Time_Primitive>
                        <claros:notBefore
rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear">-0425</claros:notBefore>
                        <claros:notAfter
rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear">-0375</claros:notAfter>
                     </E61.Time_Primitive>
                  </P79F.at_some_time_within>
               </E52.Time-Span>
            </P4F.has_time-span>
            <P7F.took_place_at
rdf:resource="http://clas-lgpn2.classics.ox.ac.uk/placeid/d1e77"/>
         </E67.Birth>
      </P98B.was_born>
   </E21.Person>
</rdf:RDF>

Notice the critical feature here of having to introduce a new
scheme to implement the details of E61 Time Primitive.

I'd be interested to see whether others think this is going in the
right direction.

--
Sebastian Rahtz
Information Manager, Oxford University Computing Services
13 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6NN. Phone +44 1865 283431

S?lo le pido a Dios
que el futuro no me sea indiferente



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:17:07 +1300
From: "Stuart A. Yeates" <syeates@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TEI-ontology-SIG] Meeting and session in London
To: tei-ontology-sig@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: ?yvind Eide <oyvind.eide@edd.uio.no>
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       <9b4315510811301517qfaf5fffq3ff5f24b3fb3db1c@mail.gmail.com>
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Am I right in assuming that most projects would use OWL or some other
logic to create more direct/elegant ways of saying that in RDF?

cheers
stuart

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Sebastian Rahtz
<sebastian.rahtz@oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> Following on that very useful session, I have
> been implementing a conversion to RDF of my example
> text. This not complete yet, but one part of it
> may interested people.
>
> I wanted to take this summary and make it into RDF:
>
>             <listPlace>
>                 <place xml:id="Cyprus">
>                     <placeName>
>                         <region>Cyprus</region>
>                     </placeName>
>                 </place>
>            </listPlace>
>             <listPerson>
>
>                 <person xml:id="V-65834">
>                     <sex value="1"/>
>                     <persName type="full" nymRef="#Zwa1lios">
>                         <forename>???????</forename>
>                     </persName>
>                     <birth notAfter="-0375" notBefore="-0425">
>                         <placeName key="Cyprus">Cyprus</placeName>
>                     </birth>
>                 </person>
>             </listPerson>
>
>
> and ended up with this:
>
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
> <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#"
>          xmlns="http://cidoc.ics.forth.gr/rdfs/cidoc_v4.2.rdfs#"
>          xmlns:claros="http://www.claros.net/temporal#"
>          xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
>    <E53.Place
> rdf:about="http://clas-lgpn2.classics.ox.ac.uk/placeid/d1e77">
>       <P87F.is_identified_by>
>          <E44.Place_Appellation>
>             <rdf:value>Cyprus</rdf:value>
>          </E44.Place_Appellation>
>       </P87F.is_identified_by>
>    </E53.Place>
>    <E21.Person rdf:about="http://clas-lgpn2.classics.ox.ac.uk/id/V-65834">
>       <P131F.is_identified_by>
>          <E82.Actor_Appellation>
>             <rdf:value>???????</rdf:value>
>          </E82.Actor_Appellation>
>       </P131F.is_identified_by>
>       <P98B.was_born>
>          <E67.Birth>
>             <P4F.has_time-span>
>                <E52.Time-Span>
>                   <P79F.at_some_time_within>
>                      <E61.Time_Primitive>
>                         <claros:notBefore
> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear">-0425</claros:notBefore>
>                         <claros:notAfter
> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear">-0375</claros:notAfter>
>                      </E61.Time_Primitive>
>                   </P79F.at_some_time_within>
>                </E52.Time-Span>
>             </P4F.has_time-span>
>             <P7F.took_place_at
> rdf:resource="http://clas-lgpn2.classics.ox.ac.uk/placeid/d1e77"/>
>          </E67.Birth>
>       </P98B.was_born>
>    </E21.Person>
> </rdf:RDF>
>
> Notice the critical feature here of having to introduce a new
> scheme to implement the details of E61 Time Primitive.
>
> I'd be interested to see whether others think this is going in the
> right direction.
>
> --
> Sebastian Rahtz
> Information Manager, Oxford University Computing Services
> 13 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6NN. Phone +44 1865 283431
>
> S?lo le pido a Dios
> que el futuro no me sea indiferente
>
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