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#523 Allow @notation in <pVar> element

AMBER
closed-fixed
5(default)
2015-01-30
2014-08-17
Jack Bowers
No

When creating a dictionary with phonetic transcriptions, it can be necessary to use multiple transcription notation systems (eg: IPA, SAMPA, ARPABET, etc..).

In TEI, the element '<pron>' is used; and although there are other attributes one can choose to specify the phonetic transcription system, '@notation' is the most semantically accurate.

Also, when one wants to most accurately record phonetic info in a language, it is often necessary to record info about pronunciation variants; for this the '<pVar>' element is the most rational choice.

Ideally the '@notation' attribute for expressing this in both the aforementioned elements, however that attribute is not available in <pVar>; (the closest thing to it is '@style')

It seems like given that the core purpose of both the "<pron>" and "<pVar>" elements is to express some kind of phonetic information with their only difference being the prominence of their respected values, that they should have the same attributes available to express that.. thus enabling the following:

        <entry xml:id="people">
           <form>
              <gloss xml:lang="ia">people</gloss>
              <orth>se'e</orth>
              <pron notation="ipa">sé.ʔè</pron>
              <pVar notation="ipa">sí.ʔì</pVar>
              <pron notation="zsampa">s e_H ? e_L</pron>
              <pVar notation="zsampa">s i_H ? i_L</pVar>
           </form>
        </entry>

Discussion

  • Syd Bauman

    Syd Bauman - 2014-11-17

    Council sub-group sees no reason not to implement this, but since it is a little out of our area of expertise think it appropriate to run it by a TEI dictionary expert first.
    I will be sending mail to LR to ask him to chime in shortly.

     
  • James Cummings

    James Cummings - 2014-11-17
    • assigned_to: Syd Bauman
     
  • James Cummings

    James Cummings - 2014-11-17

    Council F2F 2014-11-17 at Raleigh assigns to SB to follow up and as LaurentR for comment.

     
  • Laurent Romary

    Laurent Romary - 2014-11-18

    This is clearly a good proposal that would make the representation of phonetic content more coherent. I definitely recommend implementing this.

     
  • Syd Bauman

    Syd Bauman - 2015-01-30
    • status: open --> closed-fixed
     
  • Syd Bauman

    Syd Bauman - 2015-01-30

    Fixed in 13120. Should consider making the two notation= attributes (i.e., pron/@notation and pVar/@notation) into a class.