#462 idno@type='uri' for Linked Data

GREEN
closed-fixed
None
5(default)
2014-08-15
2013-06-20
No

Hugh Cayless wrote on tei-council on 2013-06-20:

It is possible to have an HTTP URI which is also an identifier, and in that case, I'd argue for keeping it in <idno>. I doubt there are any examples in the Guidelines, but it's the kind of thing we may see more of as Linked Data picks up steam. For example, the URI http://papyri.info/biblio/8276/ref denotes an actual book, and resolves to http://papyri.info/biblio/8276, which is a bibliographic record. Worldcat ids, like http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/185922478 function in the same way, and I can easily see people wanting to use them inside <bibl>s. I would. Maybe some thinking about the appropriate @type to use for these is warranted...

I suggest that we add "uri" as a suggested value for idno@type and gloss this value as being used for URI used as an identifier for an item without intending resolution. Giving one of these examples would be good.

While I also suspect we haven't used <idno> this way in the Guidelines, I know that we have used @ref in this way in a few cases. For example: <author ref="http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no2001067434">. I think these can stay as they are.

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Feature Requests: #462

Discussion

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  • Piotr Banski

    Piotr Banski - 2013-11-11

    I'm not sure what you're referring to when you talk about "Piotr's alternative". But on re-reading this ticket, I couldn't escape the feeling that, with URIs being identifiers, and with <idno> being used for identifiers, something seems amiss when you suddenly decide to eliminate <idno> with URIs in favour of <ptr> with pure pointing semantics. Hmm, I think I could call this the wrong move.

     
    • Kevin Hawkins

      Kevin Hawkins - 2013-11-11

      Piotr's alternative was: "Maybe it's enough to replace 'URL' with 'URI' in the examples listed in the spec."

       
  • James Cummings

    James Cummings - 2013-11-11
    • assigned_to: Hugh A. Cayless
    • Group: AMBER --> GREEN
     
  • James Cummings

    James Cummings - 2013-11-11

    ASsigned to Hugh; Green.

     
  • Hugh A. Cayless

    Hugh A. Cayless - 2013-11-11

    The bit that I'm implementing is just to give an example of <idno type="URI"> I agree with Piotr, and I think Kevin does now too, that there can be idnos of type URI in bibliography. URLs there might better be refs, but can be idnos. It depends on what the encoder is doing.

     
    • Piotr Banski

      Piotr Banski - 2013-11-11

      Ah, thanks Hugh, I think I can see the motivation now for eliminating the not-so-URIsh cases in favour of pointing, while leaving the good guys be.

       
    • Kevin Hawkins

      Kevin Hawkins - 2013-11-11

      Yes, I'm also satisfied and happy for Hugh to add an example of <idno type="URI">.

       
  • Hugh A. Cayless

    Hugh A. Cayless - 2013-11-12

    Fixed with r12605

     
  • Hugh A. Cayless

    Hugh A. Cayless - 2013-11-12
    • status: open --> closed-fixed
     
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