#346 make attributes from and to (as pointers) part of a class

GREEN
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2013-01-15
2012-03-03
No

In the course of working on bibliographical ranges, where a proposal is made to create a class for @from and @to (see http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Council/Working/tcw23.xml\), Keven, Martin and I identified the need to rationalized the other usages of these attribute when they are actually defined as data.pointer, namely in app, arc, locus and span.

Discussion

  • Lou Burnard

    Lou Burnard - 2012-03-15
    • milestone: --> 871209
     
  • BODARD Gabriel

    BODARD Gabriel - 2012-03-20

    Is there a proposal for the handling of @from and @to (when pointers) on other elements? Could they all, for example, be part of the same class (perhaps not named att.biblRange in this case)?

     
  • Lou Burnard

    Lou Burnard - 2012-04-17

    The semantics of @from and @to on arc and on biblScope differ greatly from the other two cases. The interpretation of @from (without @to) on span is quite different and probably not applicable to @from on app.
    We conclude there is no good reason to make a class here. We also note that the meaning of "the passage" in the spec for @from on span could be more clearly expressed, distinguishing the cases where it points to an empty element, an element, or a string-range or xpath.

     
  • Lou Burnard

    Lou Burnard - 2012-04-17
    • assigned_to: nobody --> kshawkin
     
  • Lou Burnard

    Lou Burnard - 2012-04-17

    Council agrees that we will review the text for clarificaqtion.

     
  • James Cummings

    James Cummings - 2012-09-19

    Lou to come up with a new proposal of wording. (council face 2 face 2012-09)

     
  • James Cummings

    James Cummings - 2012-09-19
    • milestone: 871209 --> GREEN
    • assigned_to: kshawkin --> louburnard
     
  • Lou Burnard

    Lou Burnard - 2013-01-04

    With the addition of @target to <span>, it seems plausible that we may eventually deprecate use of @from and @to on this element. This introduction has also necessitated some revision of the text explaining the significance of these three attributes. Council needs to review the text at AISP to see if this is now clearer.

     
  • Kevin Hawkins

    Kevin Hawkins - 2013-01-10

    In Ann Arbor (corresponding to the 2012-04-17 comment) we agreed that RW would clarify the defintion of <span> using wording from section 17.3 (#AISP). (See tips in the 2012-04-17 comment.)

    And then in Oxford we noted that this was still not done and agreed that KH and RW would do this together.

    Furthermore, in Oxford we also agreed that Lou would clarify the wording in the Guidelines (see the comment from 2012-09-19). I don't remember what exactly he was going to clarify, and he indicates in the comment at 2013-01-04 that he revised the text at #AISP, which correspond to the section 17.3 that KH and RW are supposed to pull text from. However, I don't see any recent revisions to AI-AnalyticMechanisms.xml. Perhaps he hasn't checked them in yet?

     
  • Kevin Hawkins

    Kevin Hawkins - 2013-01-10

    For implementing the part of this ticket assigned to RW and KH ...

    I recommend changing the defintion of @from from:

    specifies the beginning of the passage being annotated; if not accompanied by a @to attribute, then specifies the entire passage.

    to

    gives the identifier of the node which is the starting point of the span of text being annotated; if not accompanied by a @to attribute, then gives the identifier of the node of the entire span of text being annotated

    and changing the definition of @to from:

    specifies the end of the passage being annotated.

    to:

    gives the identifier of the node which is the end-point of the span of text being annotated

     
  • Rebecca Welzenbach

    Responding to LB's 2013-01-04 comment: I think the revised text at AISP explaining the significance of @from, @to, and @target on <span> is quite clear.

    I really appreciate the precision of KSH's proposed changes to the definitions of @from and @to below. I would only drop "then" from the proposed definition of @from, so that it reads:

    gives the identifier of the node which is the starting point of the span of
    text being annotated; if not accompanied by a @to attribute, gives the
    identifier of the node of the entire span of text being annotated

     
  • Kevin Hawkins

    Kevin Hawkins - 2013-01-15
    • assigned_to: louburnard --> rwelzenb
     
  • Kevin Hawkins

    Kevin Hawkins - 2013-01-15

    At revision 11423, updated <desc>s of @fromt and @to in specification for <span>. Closing this ticket.

     
  • Kevin Hawkins

    Kevin Hawkins - 2013-01-15
    • status: open --> closed
     

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