I don't think that this is a mistake. What's implied here is "An organization is not the same thing as a list [of people] or group of people."
The sentence that comes just a bit later, though, confuses things:
"For example, a sports team might be defined in terms of its membership (a listPerson), its fixtures (a listPlace), its geographical affiliation (a placeName), or any combination of these."
We've just said that a list of people is not sufficient to make an organization, so perhaps "defined" is misleadingly applied here. I propose instead:
"The <org> describing a sports team might contain children defining its its membership (a listPerson), its fixtures (a listPlace), its geographical affiliation (a placeName), or any combination of these."
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I agree that "defined" is not good and that your alternative is more precise, but I still don't see how an organization can be a list (of persons or organizations), unless "list" used in the very loose sense of "a number of". However, this is hardly a major issue.
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Jens, I agree with you and in fact that's what this clarification is trying to achieve: a list of persons does not constitute an organization. But a list of persons (e.g., members) might be one trait of an organization.
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Maybe just change defined to described? An org element isnt obligatory is it?
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From: Rebecca Welzenbach rwelzenb@users.sf.net
Date: 12/04/2013 07:52 (GMT-05:00)
To: "[tei:bugs]" 557@bugs.tei.p.re.sf.net
Subject: [tei:bugs] #557 Category mistake
I don't think that this is a mistake. What's implied here is "An organization is not the same thing as a list [of people] or group of people."
The sentence that comes just a bit later, though, confuses things:
"For example, a sports team might be defined in terms of its membership (a listPerson), its fixtures (a listPlace), its geographical affiliation (a placeName), or any combination of these."
We've just said that a list of people is not sufficient to make an organization, so perhaps "defined" is misleadingly applied here. I propose instead:
"The <org> describing a sports team might contain children defining its its membership (a listPerson), its fixtures (a listPlace), its geographical affiliation (a placeName), or any combination of these."</org>
I don't think that this is a mistake. What's implied here is "An organization is not the same thing as a list [of people] or group of people."
The sentence that comes just a bit later, though, confuses things:
"For example, a sports team might be defined in terms of its membership (a listPerson), its fixtures (a listPlace), its geographical affiliation (a placeName), or any combination of these."
We've just said that a list of people is not sufficient to make an organization, so perhaps "defined" is misleadingly applied here. I propose instead:
"The <org> describing a sports team might contain children defining its its membership (a listPerson), its fixtures (a listPlace), its geographical affiliation (a placeName), or any combination of these."
I agree that "defined" is not good and that your alternative is more precise, but I still don't see how an organization can be a list (of persons or organizations), unless "list" used in the very loose sense of "a number of". However, this is hardly a major issue.
Jens, I agree with you and in fact that's what this clarification is trying to achieve: a list of persons does not constitute an organization. But a list of persons (e.g., members) might be one trait of an organization.
Maybe just change defined to described? An org element isnt obligatory is it?
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From: Rebecca Welzenbach rwelzenb@users.sf.net
Date: 12/04/2013 07:52 (GMT-05:00)
To: "[tei:bugs]" 557@bugs.tei.p.re.sf.net
Subject: [tei:bugs] #557 Category mistake
I don't think that this is a mistake. What's implied here is "An organization is not the same thing as a list [of people] or group of people."
The sentence that comes just a bit later, though, confuses things:
"For example, a sports team might be defined in terms of its membership (a listPerson), its fixtures (a listPlace), its geographical affiliation (a placeName), or any combination of these."
We've just said that a list of people is not sufficient to make an organization, so perhaps "defined" is misleadingly applied here. I propose instead:
"The <org> describing a sports team might contain children defining its its membership (a listPerson), its fixtures (a listPlace), its geographical affiliation (a placeName), or any combination of these."</org>
[bugs:#557]http://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/557/ Category mistake
Status: open
Created: Tue Apr 09, 2013 08:58 AM UTC by Jens Østergaard Petersen
Last Updated: Tue Apr 09, 2013 08:58 AM UTC
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Text: "An organization is not the same thing as a list or group of people"
Comment: Category mistake.
Suggestion: "An organization is not the same thing as a group of people"
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#557That seems fine to me.
"defined" changed to "described" at revision 11890