Kokua viewer / Tickets (Read-only) / #324 Touch restriction works not very well in RLV or RLVa

Nicky Perian - 2015-01-03

status: new --> working-on-it

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-03

Karin,
Please verify that Restrained Love Viewer has or has not this behavior.

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-04

Please give this a try. Between this and the fix at ticket #325 I am hopeful for a fix.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kokua.team-purple.p/files/Weekly/Kokua-MKRLV/Kokua_MKRLV_Test_3_7_24_36529_i686_Setup.exe/download

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Karin Korpov - 2015-01-05

Hi Nicky,

Just tried... sadly the same still
see small movie: http://youtu.be/W2OHltFtWc8

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-05

Please describe what happens with the RLV viewer.
Maybe provide a video clip with RLV as the viewer.
I have no restraint items.

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-05

I think the problem is that Kokua has, as does Firestorm, the ability to right click a worn attachment from inventory and have the position arrows show on the avatar at the attachment point. There is value gained from being to locate and adjust very small attachments.

It will take some time to make this feature RLV aware.

My thinking is to not have this happen when @touchattach=n or completely disable it with RLV active.

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Karin Korpov - 2015-01-05

giggles
FS has it also... Look in the movie and you will see....
http://youtu.be/4mQ8iIWsDhg

I can with lots words say, but i think with a little movie lots more says

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LSL_Protocol/RestrainedLoveAPI#Touch

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-06

Karin,
Here is another Kokua to test. This removes what appears to be an extra call
the touch action.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kokua.team-purple.p/files/Weekly/Kokua-MKRLV/Kokua_MKRLV_Test_3_7_24_36530_i686_Setup.exe/download

changeset
https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/commits/a870a165e2da3ce4eb9ac2ca0509c25a297a0177

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Karin Korpov - 2015-01-06

test done

Result:
Sadly same result, when a right mouse clicks in the inventory on the item.. Get i the menu

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-15

Karin,
Marine Kelley has been unable to respond to your RLV bug report due to technical problems with bitbucket.org. She responded to an email inquiry that she had tested and found nothing wrong. I have purchased a pair of handcuffs from Marines' store and using RLV viewer can right click a locked cuff and the Touch menu option is present and seems to be always present whether @touchall=n or @touchall=y is entered in chat.

The difference in Kokua is that Touch can be enabled from the Inventory list of the cuffs. But, that is no different than right click of the cuff and selecting Touch with the item context menu.

In order to do more I will need detailed step by step reproduction of the problem showing what is supposed to happen using RLV viewer. Then the same detailed step by step reproduction showing what does not happen using Kokua.

Nicky

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Karin Korpov - 2015-01-15

Hi Nicky,

The steps that i always do:
Buy a collar from OC (free one)

Turn your RLV on

wear your collar as example

when your RLV on is, type in local your first letters from your name. As example for you, your N and your P. npmenu in the local

in a corner get you a popup and choice "RLV"

after RLV, make the choice "touch"

press on "self" and there comes a "V" for the option
You're restricted for self touch in this example

click on your collar and your see that this not possible is
--- only possible in Kokua viewer ---
open your inventory and search your collar, when you have found, right button of your mouse and make the choice of the option touch. And you go see that you a menu get up

Why only possible in the Kokua viewer?
Kokua support a touch from a inventory and the others using RLVa or have not the option touch from the inventory with the right mouse button.

RLV viewer and Ukando, what both use from RLV option.. have both not the option done touching from the inventory.

All other viewers like FS and Dragon using RLVa option

If you more details want, like a little movie, say that at me and i make a little movie from the viewers that you wants to have.

Attachment:
An example from touching on self with a inventory option in FireStorm
http://youtu.be/4mQ8iIWsDhg

Regards,
Karin
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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-15

Karin,
Thank You for staying with me on this problem. I know is would be easy to forget Kokua and move on to a different viewer.
I assume the problem was the Touch in Inventory would allow the owner of the restraint to break out.
I am still so dumb about this RLV. So, I have more questions.
I do not see a #RLV folder in Inventory. Does that need to be created or is that only for given items?
Turn your RLV on --> Is this just to have an RLV in the top menu bar or is there more to it like a chat entered command?

I have removed "Detach From Yourself" and "Touch" from the right click of an Inventory item. I have left Edit in place as it has value for editing small attachments that have become buried inside the avatar body.
Please give this a try.
https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/downloads/Kokua_MKRLV_Test_3_7_25_36566_i686_Setup.exe
Nicky

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-16

Karin,
After additional review I have decided to leave Kokua alone and allow the Touch on right click of wearable attachments.
This is the same behavior as Firestorm. See: http://jira.phoenixviewer.com/browse/FIRE-340
If there is a reason other than other viewers don't do it that way I will reconsider.
A valid reason would be this allows restrained avatars to easily break restraint.

Additionally there is a Touch allowed from Appearance -> Wearing and Right click Touch is present there as well as in Inventory.

The changes that but these behaviors into Kokua are:
Appearance -> Wearing https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/commits/all?search=c5134f
Inventory https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/commits/all?search=d62103

Again thanks for reporting. I'm sorry it took so long to resolve.

Nicky

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-16

Karin'
Please try this.
Ticket #324 Menu entry in inventory and appearance has been disabled for
Touch. The menu is still shown as active but the action is nil. Added a
notification when an inventory or appearance Touch is clicked.

Please comment if this is sufficient.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kokua.team-purple.p/files/Weekly/Kokua-MKRLV/Kokua_MKRLV_Test_3_7_25_36566_i686_Setup.exe/download

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Karin Korpov - 2015-01-17

Wow Nicky.. amazing!

-- RLV Touch is resricted. --

That's a wonderful solving from you and smart

Karin

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Karin Korpov - 2015-01-17

Q: I do not see a #RLV folder in Inventory. Does that need to be created or is that only for given items?

A: not needed for testing.. is only for items to share

Q: Turn your RLV on --> Is this just to have an RLV in the top
menu bar or is there more to it like a chat entered command?

A: In Advanced in the option RestrainedLove API, turns that on,
after a restart works that only

Information more?
Call me in a IM inworld and i will so much as i can explain to you. Karin Korpov is also there the name

Regards,
Karin

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-18

https://bitbucket.org/kokua/kokua-beta/commits/all?search=(c3dd4973cfc9)
Ticket #324 Menu entry in inventory and appearance has been disabled for
Touch. The menu is still shown as active but the action is nil. Added a
notification when an inventory or appearance Touch is clicked.

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Nicky Perian - 2015-01-18

status: working-on-it --> done
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