Re: [tcltk-perl] Tcl-0.88 latest changes and plans

[Vadim K. <va...@vk...>]

>> - bundled with ActiveTcl (full and stripped a bit)
>>      http://www.vkonovalov.ru/tcltk-misc/perl58-tcltk8410
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>Please don't bundle ActiveTcl, you will upset our legal
>folks.  ;)  There are other options, possibly better ones
>to look into.
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ok. Leaving license files inside distribution untouched is not enough, 
one needs reading them and following instructions closely.
I made those archives unavailable.
I thought about making "ppm" similar to perl/Tk, where installing "ppm" 
is enough to get module running.
But, indeed, Windows users will install ActiveTcl just fine before 
installing something like vkonovalov.ru/tcltk-misc/perl-TclTk-0.87.zip


>> Is it actually used anywhere?
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>Yes, we use it for the Perl Dev Kit, which includes its own
>prepackaged Tcl/Tk libraries, allowing it to be independent
>of any other Tcl installation.  In fact, this is what you
>should use if you want an optional "all-in-one" distro.
>See below for details.
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Unsurprisingly, I suspected something like this :)

I'll review my updates and will correct them with all that in mind.

>>One of two (or both) be either developed to robust state and 
>>documented, or removed and forgot :)
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>They are both valuable.  The above should be sufficient docs
>for both cases.
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good, I'll use that text, then...

>>When these two items are done, it is quite easy to use Tcl for 
>>bootstrapping, so entire Perl is started from ZIP archive (and a few 
>>DLLs from outside archive)
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>When ActiveTcl is installed, you obviously don't have to
>worry about what's available.  For some more reference to
>the above code, you can see the original inspiration in the
>Tcl web browser plugin loading functions:
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>http://cvs.sf.net/viewcvs.py/tclplugin/tclplugin/win/npWin.c?view=markup
>http://cvs.sf.net/viewcvs.py/tclplugin/tclplugin/unix/npUnix.c?view=markup
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>as to an "all-in-one" wrapping solution, the best way is
>likely to distribute a dll that is all you need.  In order
>to do this, you must create a stardll (stand-alone runtime
>dll).  Here is a script that creates one for the plugin:
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>http://cvs.sf.net/viewcvs.py/tclplugin/tclplugin/tools/buildkit.tcl?view=marku
>p
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starkit with perl inside it will make many things easier, so I think it 
is interesting to try.

>Note that to do this, you require an ActiveState Tcl Dev Kit
>license (specifically allows redistribution of the basekit
>and basedll in ActiveTcl).  I'm willing to comp you a
>license if you don't already have one (give me an email
>address).
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Thank you in advance, I'll follow download instructions closely and will 
let you know.

Best regards,
Vadim.