Re: [Tcllib-devel] Regarding SourceForge, the Tcllib CVS, and transitioning somewhere.

[Arjen M. <arj...@de...>]

Hi Andreas,

have we reached a conclusion for this issue yet? (My most pressing
need at the moment is the development of a new version of Plotchart,
which I am developing together with Torsten Berg)

Regards,

Arjen

On 2011-02-15 19:04, Andreas Kupries wrote:
> On 2/14/2011 4:41 PM, Michael Schlenker wrote:
>> Hi Andreas,
>>
>> I personally do not really care if either Git or Fossil gets picked, both are fine for the intended use.
>>
>>  From a more global perspective it might be better to pick Git instead of Fossil due to the larger group of
>> users already knowing Git in general, compared to fossil. It is the 800 lbs gorilla, but if that one moves
>> us forward faster, who cares?
> 
>> And it is not really in doubt that there are and will be more tools available for Git than for fossil due to the pure market share.
>>
>> So, for political reason I would cast a vote for Git. Its good enough for the job, gives Tcl(lib) some more visibility than using
> 
> I should clarify here my previous example/argument I made, about the GSoC 
> student. The argument is one of "lower barrier to entry". It is not a 
> (auto)magic visibility of the form "If you build it they will come".
> 
> Even with going "git" Tcl(lib)s visibility is determined by actual marketing, 
> i.e. evangelization.
> 
> There is one argument which I was told in private mail, against "git", namely 
> that it(s support) is not very good on windows, and that this might drive 
> developers away, given that Tcl prides itself on good x-platform portability, 
> which means that we need good windows support in our tools for easy development 
> on that platform. At least for those people not using a mix of platforms like 
> me (*).
> 
> Regarding the core assumption behind the argument, of git not being good on 
> Win, that I can't really evaluate. I haven't used git very much and not at all 
> on Windows.
> 
> Given my own preference for fossil I will certainly ask this question on the 
> fossil list as well, for while I am using fossil often now I haven't used it on 
> windows either.
> 
> 
>> a (nice, but) 'fringe' system like fossil, and makes it easier for others to participate.
> 
> I would not describe fossil as 'fringe' with its negative connotations. Niche, 
> yes, fringe, no.
> 
>> I think we should also look at other things like issue/bug trackers when doing the move, the Sourceforge trackers are far from best
>> of breed for sure, so both fossils trackers and github or others might offer improvements.
> 
> (*) With the mix of boxes I have access to, and the shared file systems all the 
> VCS ops happen on linux and files are copied to windows boxes for building. No 
> direct VCS ops on the windows boxes.
> 
 

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