Re: [tcljava-dev] Dynamic Languages on the JVM: The Future

[Bruce J. <nm...@ma...>]

Of course, these things always contribute a little to the traditional  
"we have the best-kept secret", or perhaps, "we have the largest  
inferiority complex" that plagues the Tcl world.  One would like to  
think that Tcl/Jacl wouldn't be relegated to the "etc." category in  
lists such as this (from the Java One flyer).

Scripting languages (e.g. Groovy, Jython, Ruby, Perl, PHP, Python,  
Rhino, etc.)

Apparently we do need what the Java One conference calls a "Rock  
Star".  On the other hand perhaps the steady, but unnoticed,  usage  
of Tcl is better than a rise to stardom followed by decline to  
obscurity.



On Feb 16, 2007, at 9:11 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

> (Hi there Tcl enthusiasts and Jacl devs! This is kind of a form  
> letter,
> but I'm serious about getting this event together with devs from
> multiple languages. I'd love to hear your thoughts on such an event  
> and
> see if you'd be interested in attending.)
>
> Hello all!
>
> I am attempting to organize an outside event for JavaOne this year
> entitled "Dynamic Languages on the JVM: The Future". It is my  
> intent to
> have as many alternative (dynamic) language implementers together  
> in the
> same place as well as Java and JVM developers and specifiers. This  
> would
> be our opportunity to talk about areas that have caused us trouble,
> features we'd like to see in Java or the JVM (or features we'd like to
> remove) and other related topics. I really want to break down the
> boundaries between the language implementations/implementers so we can
> cooperatively work toward making the JVM a more dynlang-friendly  
> platform.
>
> Ideally we'd have as many of your core team as possible (or others, as
> you see fit) in attendance. I'll be there, as will at least Tom Enebo
> and Ola Bini of the JRuby team. I'm also reaching out to other  
> language
> teams in hopes of having a really good cross-language discussion.
>
> The event would likely be hosted at a nearby hotel, bar, or  
> restaurant.
> I'd like it to be pretty informal, but somewhere we can actually talk.
>
> It would help my cause to get this event organized (and funded) if I
> could get a vote of confidence from likely attendees. Many high-level
> folks at Sun have already voiced their approval, and I think this  
> is an
> excellent opportunity for us to show that real cooperation between the
> dynlang impls is possible and that it would be productive.
>
> Please feel free to reply on this list (assuming the owners don't  
> mind)
> or in private if you have questions or to voice your opinion. This is
> going to be a big year for dynlangs on the JVM, and we need to make  
> sure
> things keep moving in the right direction.
>
> -- 
> Charles Oliver Nutter
> JRuby Core Developer
> Senior Staff Engineer
> Sun Microsystems, Inc
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