Re: [tcljava-dev] Dynamic Languages on the JVM: The Future

[Bruce J. <nm...@ma...>]

I've had some inquiries about access to Swank (Tk in Java) from other  
languages like JRuby.  It might be interesting to think about what  
core features would make this simpler.  I hadn't planned on attending  
Java One, but this sounds like an interesting event, so I may think  
about it.

Bruce



On Feb 16, 2007, at 9:11 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

> (Hi there Tcl enthusiasts and Jacl devs! This is kind of a form  
> letter,
> but I'm serious about getting this event together with devs from
> multiple languages. I'd love to hear your thoughts on such an event  
> and
> see if you'd be interested in attending.)
>
> Hello all!
>
> I am attempting to organize an outside event for JavaOne this year
> entitled "Dynamic Languages on the JVM: The Future". It is my  
> intent to
> have as many alternative (dynamic) language implementers together  
> in the
> same place as well as Java and JVM developers and specifiers. This  
> would
> be our opportunity to talk about areas that have caused us trouble,
> features we'd like to see in Java or the JVM (or features we'd like to
> remove) and other related topics. I really want to break down the
> boundaries between the language implementations/implementers so we can
> cooperatively work toward making the JVM a more dynlang-friendly  
> platform.
>
> Ideally we'd have as many of your core team as possible (or others, as
> you see fit) in attendance. I'll be there, as will at least Tom Enebo
> and Ola Bini of the JRuby team. I'm also reaching out to other  
> language
> teams in hopes of having a really good cross-language discussion.
>
> The event would likely be hosted at a nearby hotel, bar, or  
> restaurant.
> I'd like it to be pretty informal, but somewhere we can actually talk.
>
> It would help my cause to get this event organized (and funded) if I
> could get a vote of confidence from likely attendees. Many high-level
> folks at Sun have already voiced their approval, and I think this  
> is an
> excellent opportunity for us to show that real cooperation between the
> dynlang impls is possible and that it would be productive.
>
> Please feel free to reply on this list (assuming the owners don't  
> mind)
> or in private if you have questions or to voice your opinion. This is
> going to be a big year for dynlangs on the JVM, and we need to make  
> sure
> things keep moving in the right direction.
>
> -- 
> Charles Oliver Nutter
> JRuby Core Developer
> Senior Staff Engineer
> Sun Microsystems, Inc
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