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From: Steve H. <st...@xh...> - 2009-03-11 03:23:10
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Tomasz Kosiak wrote: > * Steve Huntley "Tclhttpd refurbish" - did I correctly deciphered the mentor? > I did suggest this project without necessarily assuming I'd be the best to mentor it; but I'd be happy to do so for this or any other appropriate project. |
From: Jeff H. <je...@ac...> - 2009-03-10 23:54:27
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Tomasz Kosiak wrote: > 1. Who will you be able to submit Tcl GSoC 2009 application and act > as an admin? I will not have the time to both admin and mentor, and I would prefer to mentor. > One *very *important question is if we can/will act as umbrella > organization for Tcl/Tk + AOLserver/Naviserver/OpenACS/XOTcl/aMSN > which gave us 5 more slots last year. I feel that it doesn't hurt to represent the umbrella, but perhaps we can assist in more clearly breaking out components by sub-area. Labelling things AREA::... as ideas. > 2. Who is *really* willing to be a mentor this summer (if we got selected) Given the available opportunities and the open scope of ideas, I would be willing to mentor in the Tk area. Specifically more photo manipulation, megawidgets and anything in tklib are right up my alley. In particular, a megawidget system based on TclOO with the features of snidgets would be a big win for the core and I believe a easier to medium level difficulty project. Jeff |
From: Andreas K. <and...@ac...> - 2009-03-10 19:46:46
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Tomasz Kosiak wrote: > That are IMHO the missing points for Tcl/Tk/others to be accepted in GSoC 2009: > > > 1. Who will you be able to submit Tcl GSoC 2009 application and act as an admin? > > Will Matthew Burke find enough time or we need someone else to volunteer? > IMHO we *badly* need clear answer who will act as Tcl/Tk organization > admin in year 2009. Yes. > One *very *important question is if we can/will act as umbrella > organization for Tcl/Tk + AOLserver/Naviserver/OpenACS/XOTcl/aMSN > which gave us 5 more slots last year. > 2. Who is *really* willing to be a mentor this summer (if we got selected) > I think we'll need full mentor name below the project title so > students can easily contact mentor for more info if needed. > > * Gerald Lester is willing to mentor "Tcl Application Server" > > * Andreas Kupries is willing to mentor but which ideas ??? Right, I have to fill that in. Mostly in the tcllib area and graph work. > * Steve Huntley "Tclhttpd refurbish" - did I correctly deciphered the mentor? > > Who is willing to mentor these? > > * ??? "Coverage Analysis" - Larry Virden or maybe we can ask Richard > Hipp as he has an expertise in this area with SQLite. > * ??? "Tcl Core Byte Code" - DKF or AK ? More DKF or Miguel Sofer (MS). I am not so firm with the recent changes (Non-Recursive-Engine). MS will likely not have time. I consider 'difficulty high'. > * ??? "Regexp engine cleanup" DKF/JH I believe, if they have time. > * ??? "Curses implementation of Tk" > * ??? TIP 308 TDBC (Tcl DataBase Connectivity) - PostgreSQL & Oracle > Tcl/C drivers are really needed KBK would be good, if he has time. > * ??? "Tcllib enhancements" AK. > * ??? "Tk - factor out of Tk photo image processing" & "Icon thems" & I proposed that as idea, without knowing the internals involved, so not firm as mentor. Tk gurus needed for this. > Last year as mentors we also had: > > * Patrick Thoyts > * Jeff Hobbs > * Gustaf Neumann (XOTcl or OpenACS) > * Youness El Alaoui (aMSN) > * Tomasz Kosiak (I will write down 2 ideas tomorrow) > 3. Our "Ideas page" need *major* improvement. Agreed. Lots of small ideas without specific information. And of course murphy hits us now, the Wiki is slow to the point of being not usable. > I think we should group/reformat ideas to bring it into something like > last year http://wiki.tcl.tk/20832. > Except mentioning full mentor name as a link to contact page we should > state at least project difficulty and what is required from a student: > Tcl or C and what else if really needed. > > We shall reorder the ideas so those defined more clearly should be > higher. In fact I think that we should somehow top ideas that are > proffered by a community. Students will sometimes only read a few > first entries. That's why I think that we need an index at the top > consisting only from titles linked to anchors. > > Another important thing is that we have to include an introduction at > the top. We shall even state that this is "Ideas page" for > Tcl/Tk/AOLserver/Naviserver/OpenACS/XOTcl and give links to proper > home pages, because students may not know those projects. Something > like last year is minimum. > > We should advertise we've received 9 student slots (lets even explain > what that meant) and that all those projects were somehow successful > (students completed some work and get *paid*). AFAIR we where as good > as PHP last year. > > Quoting from the GSoC FAQ: > > What is an "Ideas" list? > > An "Ideas" list should be a list of suggested student projects. This > list is meant to introduce contributors to your project's needs and to > provide inspiration to would-be student applicants. It is useful to > classify each idea as specifically as possible, e.g. "must know > Python" or "easier project; good for a student with more limited > experience with C++." If your organization plans to provide an > application template, it would be good to include it on your Ideas > list. > > Keep in mind that your Ideas list should be a starting point for > student applications; we've heard from past mentoring organization > participants that some of their best student projects are those that > greatly expanded on a proposed idea or were blue-sky proposals not > mentioned on the Ideas list at all. Andreas. |
From: Tomasz K. <tk...@da...> - 2009-03-10 01:22:56
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That are IMHO the missing points for Tcl/Tk/others to be accepted in GSoC 2009: 1. Who will you be able to submit Tcl GSoC 2009 application and act as an admin? Will Matthew Burke find enough time or we need someone else to volunteer? IMHO we *badly* need clear answer who will act as Tcl/Tk organization admin in year 2009. I offer myself to help such a person, but I think that to formulate good aplication we need native English speaker as an admin. I have reviewed last year application at http://wiki.tcl.tk/20836 and this year questions - we at least have to fix/fill only a few answers: - What criteria do you use to select the members of your group (mentors/admins)? Please be as specific as possible. - Has your group participated previously? If so, please summarize your involvement and any past successes and failures (I think I can help with this --tkosiak) - What is the application template you would like contributors to your organization to use (this is a *major* new question but I think we can gather what was good in student application last year - I can review them as I have the access to last year students' applications). but it would be desirable to rework more. Tomorrow I can set up a new wiki page and give my suggestions, but I will let some native speaker formulate this well. One *very *important question is if we can/will act as umbrella organization for Tcl/Tk + AOLserver/Naviserver/OpenACS/XOTcl/aMSN which gave us 5 more slots last year. 2. Who is *really* willing to be a mentor this summer (if we got selected) I think we'll need full mentor name below the project title so students can easily contact mentor for more info if needed. * Cliff Flynt mentioned he can mentor up to 2 of - "TkPrinting" - "TkTutor" - "XLS Read/Write" * Gerald Lester is willing to mentor "Tcl Application Server" * Andreas Kupries is willing to mentor but which ideas ??? * Steve Huntley "Tclhttpd refurbish" - did I correctly deciphered the mentor? Steve Landers mentored last year graph related project so maybe it could be continued - "Create a graph query language (GraphQL), analogous to the existing TreeQL" - "Based on the previous comment, create a language to specify and execute graph transformations" * William J Giddings "Extending Gnocl support to include Glade and GtkBuildable UI XML Description Files" * David N. Welton "Tray Tip" An implementation of this: http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/325.html "Create and integrate a theme that integrates Ttk with Gnome/Gtk." * Pawel Salawa (Googie) - SSH client in Pure-Tcl * Arjen Markus "TkLib Enhancements" Who is willing to mentor these? * ??? "Coverage Analysis" - Larry Virden or maybe we can ask Richard Hipp as he has an expertise in this area with SQLite. * ??? "Tcl Core Byte Code" - DKF or AK ? * ??? "Regexp engine cleanup" * ??? "Curses implementation of Tk" * ??? TIP 308 TDBC (Tcl DataBase Connectivity) - PostgreSQL & Oracle Tcl/C drivers are really needed * ??? "Tcllib enhancements" * ??? "Tk - factor out of Tk photo image processing" & "Icon thems" & "Better" communication with window managers/desktop environments like Gnome and KDE" * ??? "Gnocl" - What specifically could be done here? Last year as mentors we also had: * Patrick Thoyts * Jeff Hobbs * Gustaf Neumann (XOTcl or OpenACS) * Youness El Alaoui (aMSN) * Tomasz Kosiak (I will write down 2 ideas tomorrow) 3. Our "Ideas page" need *major* improvement. I think we should group/reformat ideas to bring it into something like last year http://wiki.tcl.tk/20832. Except mentioning full mentor name as a link to contact page we should state at least project difficulty and what is required from a student: Tcl or C and what else if really needed. We shall reorder the ideas so those defined more clearly should be higher. In fact I think that we should somehow top ideas that are proffered by a community. Students will sometimes only read a few first entries. That's why I think that we need an index at the top consisting only from titles linked to anchors. Another important thing is that we have to include an introduction at the top. We shall even state that this is "Ideas page" for Tcl/Tk/AOLserver/Naviserver/OpenACS/XOTcl and give links to proper home pages, because students may not know those projects. Something like last year is minimum. We should advertise we've received 9 student slots (lets even explain what that meant) and that all those projects were somehow successful (students completed some work and get *paid*). AFAIR we where as good as PHP last year. Quoting from the GSoC FAQ: What is an "Ideas" list? An "Ideas" list should be a list of suggested student projects. This list is meant to introduce contributors to your project's needs and to provide inspiration to would-be student applicants. It is useful to classify each idea as specifically as possible, e.g. "must know Python" or "easier project; good for a student with more limited experience with C++." If your organization plans to provide an application template, it would be good to include it on your Ideas list. Keep in mind that your Ideas list should be a starting point for student applications; we've heard from past mentoring organization participants that some of their best student projects are those that greatly expanded on a proposed idea or were blue-sky proposals not mentioned on the Ideas list at all. |
From: Andreas K. <and...@ac...> - 2009-03-06 19:09:57
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> 2. ask who can mentor a student this year and encourage people to > write down their ideas (preferably assigning mentors to ideas) I believe I want to try to be mentor this year again, depending on the project. Andreas |
From: Clif F. <cl...@cf...> - 2009-03-06 19:00:33
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On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 01:21:47PM -0500, Matthew Burke wrote: > Daniel A. Steffen wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:21, Tomasz Kosiak <tk...@da...> wrote: > > > > unfortunately I won't have sufficient amounts of free time this summer > > to do a good job mentoring a student, but in case nobody steps forward > > to be org admin, I suppose my arm could be twisted to deal with that > > bit of Tcl GSoC organising. (FWIW I think one of the things that went > > wrong last year was to have an admin who was also a mentor...) > > I agree. And I'm happy to either be the org admin or a mentor. The biggest stumbling block from my perspective is that I don't have much free time now, although unless things change, I'll have more than enough time this summer to (virtually, metaphorically) hover over everyone's shoulder and spur them on :) > > Matt I think we've got the kinks for dealing with the Tcl Association all worked out. I'm happy to assist whoever is the admin with the parts that need to be done by the organization head, but I don't have the time to be the admin head myself. Besides, I have some projects I'd like to have a slav... umm, mentor. Clif -- ... Clif Flynt ... http://www.cwflynt.com ... cl...@cf... ... .. Tcl/Tk: A Developer's Guide (2nd edition) - Morgan Kauffman .. ... 16'th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference: 2009, Portland, OR USA ... ............. http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2009/ ............ |
From: Matthew B. <mm...@gw...> - 2009-03-06 18:50:18
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Daniel A. Steffen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:21, Tomasz Kosiak <tk...@da...> wrote: > > unfortunately I won't have sufficient amounts of free time this summer > to do a good job mentoring a student, but in case nobody steps forward > to be org admin, I suppose my arm could be twisted to deal with that > bit of Tcl GSoC organising. (FWIW I think one of the things that went > wrong last year was to have an admin who was also a mentor...) I agree. And I'm happy to either be the org admin or a mentor. The biggest stumbling block from my perspective is that I don't have much free time now, although unless things change, I'll have more than enough time this summer to (virtually, metaphorically) hover over everyone's shoulder and spur them on :) Matt |
From: Remigiusz M. <lr...@go...> - 2009-03-06 17:58:29
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Friday 06 of March 2009 15:12:14 Daniel A. Steffen napisał(/a): > unfortunately I won't have sufficient amounts of free time this summer > to do a good job mentoring a student That's unfortunate, you've been a good mentor last year. But I know your pain... Back on subject - I have a small suggestion for promoting Tcl SOC: Write some success stories. Describe what has been done last year. Show some code, some opinions of students how cool working with the Tcl community is and so on. Maybe describe how useful the code is*. I might help a bit by writing about TclDTrace and maybe speaking about it (and GSOC overall) on events that Tomasz Kosiak probably will organize. On the other hand, I don't feel like taking up any subjects from the wiki page. Kind regards, Remigiusz 'lRem' Modrzejewski * - well, mine probably hasn't got any users :( |
From: Daniel A. S. <da...@us...> - 2009-03-06 14:41:54
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On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:21, Tomasz Kosiak <tk...@da...> wrote: > Yesterday I've sent a private e-mail to Matthew Burke (our last year organization admin), but haven't > received any answer yet. > 2. ask who can mentor a student this year unfortunately I won't have sufficient amounts of free time this summer to do a good job mentoring a student, but in case nobody steps forward to be org admin, I suppose my arm could be twisted to deal with that bit of Tcl GSoC organising. (FWIW I think one of the things that went wrong last year was to have an admin who was also a mentor...) Just offering as an option of last resort, if somebody actually wants to do the job, by all means please go for it! Cheers, Daniel |
From: Tomasz K. <tk...@da...> - 2009-03-06 10:21:33
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Yesterday I've sent a private e-mail to Matthew Burke (our last year organization admin), but haven't received any answer yet. I'm willing to devote the same amount of time and energy to this year GSoC as last year. To be successful this year I think we have to: 1. rewrite our application to show we've learnt something from last year 2. ask who can mentor a student this year and encourage people to write down their ideas (preferably assigning mentors to ideas) 3. ask our community to promote Tcl amoung students at the universities worldwide so we will receive *some* student applications which is deciding factor how many slots we will finally have. This year I can reach 3 CS universities in Poland as I'm involved in organizing on March 11th and 12th a lecture by D. Richard Hipp (SQLite author, Tcl Core Team emeritus member) and he promised to advertise a Tcl GSoC 2009 during those lectures. Regards, Tomasz Kosiak On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Andreas Kupries <and...@ac...>wrote: > Andreas Kupries wrote: > > Clif Flynt wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I've exchanged some e-mail with Kryzstof, who worked with > >> me last year, and Joe English about seeing if we can put the kind > >> of introspection into the TTK widgets that normal Tk widgets support. > >> > >> I've jumped through all the hoops with Google, and should see the > >> money from last year's efforts showing up in the next bank statement. > >> > >> Do we have the wiki and/or whatever infrastructure for managing the > >> proposals set up? Would someone remind me where it is if I've been too > >> lost in the weeds to notice? > > That is an interesting flyer. > > http://lwn.net/Articles/321848/ > > Wonder if we should do a similar one ? > > Andreas. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, > CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: > SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-soc2008 mailing list > Tcl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-soc2008 > |
From: Andreas K. <and...@ac...> - 2009-03-05 21:39:12
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Andreas Kupries wrote: > Clif Flynt wrote: >> Hi, >> I've exchanged some e-mail with Kryzstof, who worked with >> me last year, and Joe English about seeing if we can put the kind >> of introspection into the TTK widgets that normal Tk widgets support. >> >> I've jumped through all the hoops with Google, and should see the >> money from last year's efforts showing up in the next bank statement. >> >> Do we have the wiki and/or whatever infrastructure for managing the >> proposals set up? Would someone remind me where it is if I've been too >> lost in the weeds to notice? That is an interesting flyer. http://lwn.net/Articles/321848/ Wonder if we should do a similar one ? Andreas. |
From: Andreas K. <and...@ac...> - 2009-02-19 16:22:26
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Clif Flynt wrote: > Hi, > I've exchanged some e-mail with Kryzstof, who worked with > me last year, and Joe English about seeing if we can put the kind > of introspection into the TTK widgets that normal Tk widgets support. > > I've jumped through all the hoops with Google, and should see the > money from last year's efforts showing up in the next bank statement. > > Do we have the wiki and/or whatever infrastructure for managing the > proposals set up? Would someone remind me where it is if I've been too > lost in the weeds to notice? "Project Ideas for Google Summer of Code 2009" is at http://wiki.tcl.tk/22182 Andreas. |
From: Arjen M. <arj...@de...> - 2009-02-19 15:18:05
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Hi Clif, a bunch of proposals have been collected at http://wiki.tcl.tk/22182. Regards, Arjen On 2009-02-19 13:50, Clif Flynt wrote: > Hi, > I've exchanged some e-mail with Kryzstof, who worked with > me last year, and Joe English about seeing if we can put the kind > of introspection into the TTK widgets that normal Tk widgets support. > > I've jumped through all the hoops with Google, and should see the > money from last year's efforts showing up in the next bank statement. > > Do we have the wiki and/or whatever infrastructure for managing the > proposals set up? Would someone remind me where it is if I've been too > lost in the weeds to notice? > > Thanks, > Clif > Delft Hydraulics, GeoDelft, the Subsurface and Groundwater unit of TNO and parts of Rijkswaterstaat have joined forces in a new independent institute for delta technology, Deltares. Deltares combines knowledge and experience in the field of water, soil and the subsurface. We provide innovative solutions to make living in deltas, coastal areas and river basins safe, clean and sustainable. DISCLAIMER: This message is intended exclusively for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and destroy this message. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The foundation 'Stichting Deltares', which has its seat at Delft, The Netherlands, Commercial Registration Number 41146461, is not liable in any way whatsoever for consequences and/or damages resulting from the improper, incomplete and untimely dispatch, receipt and/or content of this e-mail. |
From: Clif F. <cl...@cf...> - 2009-02-19 14:46:22
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Hi, I've exchanged some e-mail with Kryzstof, who worked with me last year, and Joe English about seeing if we can put the kind of introspection into the TTK widgets that normal Tk widgets support. I've jumped through all the hoops with Google, and should see the money from last year's efforts showing up in the next bank statement. Do we have the wiki and/or whatever infrastructure for managing the proposals set up? Would someone remind me where it is if I've been too lost in the weeds to notice? Thanks, Clif -- ... Clif Flynt ... http://www.cwflynt.com ... cl...@cf... ... .. Tcl/Tk: A Developer's Guide (2nd edition) - Morgan Kauffman .. .... 16'th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference: 2009, West Coast, USA .... ............. http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2008/ ............ |
From: Andreas K. <and...@ac...> - 2009-02-10 00:03:48
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FYI and propagation ... |
From: Andreas K. <and...@ac...> - 2009-01-08 20:05:17
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Matthew Burke wrote: > In the next day or two, I'll get appropriate pages set up on the Tclers' > wiki so we can start discussing projects, recruiting mentors, etc. The basic project page seems to be already present, see http://wiki.tcl.tk/22182 Clif Flynt wrote: > Hi, > 1) Good news. With all this experience under our belts, > we ought to be able to do something interesting. Heh. > 2) Regarding a 2009 mailing list - perhaps we should have a > generic TclGSoC mailing list, and keep it from year-to-year. +1 Ok, time for me to go over my notes for ideas and write them up nicely. |
From: Clif F. <cl...@cf...> - 2009-01-08 19:38:50
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Hi, 1) Good news. With all this experience under our belts, we ought to be able to do something interesting. 2) Regarding a 2009 mailing list - perhaps we should have a generic TclGSoC mailing list, and keep it from year-to-year. 3) We are still on Google's radar. The Tcl Association is getting very close to existing - paperwork is at a lawyer's office, bank account is set up. Now that a bank account exists, I'm finally filling out the Google forms to get the mentor fees paid. I'm not sure if this is good "on the radar", but at least they know we're (very) trying. If anyone is interested, setting up a for-profit company is a piece of cake (even a "C" corp is trivial) compared to a NFP entity. I won't claim the taxing entities deliberately make it difficult to exempt yourself from giving them money, but I'll admit that if I were in their position and making rules, I'd give that technique serious consideration. Happy Tcl'ing, Clif -- ... Clif Flynt ... http://www.cwflynt.com ... cl...@cf... ... .. Tcl/Tk: A Developer's Guide (2nd edition) - Morgan Kauffman .. .... 16'th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference: 2009, West Coast, USA .... ............. http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2008/ ............ |
From: Matthew M. B. <mm...@gw...> - 2009-01-08 19:30:17
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Google has announced that they will hold GSoC again this coming summer. In the next day or two, I'll get appropriate pages set up on the Tclers' wiki so we can start discussing projects, recruiting mentors, etc. Do we want to create a tcl-soc2009 list? Matt |
From: Matthew M. B. <mm...@gw...> - 2008-10-20 23:37:43
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All, I know that I should be able to track down final reports, etc. on the GSoC projects through the GSoC dashboard....but, as usual, I'm behind on things and on Thursday Tomasz and I will be leading a discussion at the Tcl conference on how it all went. So, I'd appreciate it if you could send me just a (short) summary note, along with any ideas/comments/suggestions to raise in regards to planning for next summer. Matt (and yes, I know several of you are in Manassas as I write this and you have more interesting/important things to do....) |
From: Franz W. <fra...@wu...> - 2008-09-05 09:14:24
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Hello, I am one of the students who are writing Code for GSoC for the Tcl/Tk Community. For some reasons my user hasn't enough rights to upload source code. Regarding to Leslie Hawthorn the best way is if one of you could provide me those user rights. (Add as member to http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2008-tcl/) user: Fra...@gm... <mailto:Fra...@gm...> Greetings, Franz ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mag. Franz Wirl http://wi.wu-wien.ac.at/nm/en/wirl Wirtschaftsuniversität Wien Institut für Wirtschaftsinformatik und Neue Medien, UZAII, Augasse 2-6, A-1090 Wien, Österreich Tel +43 1 31336 4429 Fax +43 1 31336 74 |
From: Steve H. <st...@xh...> - 2008-08-29 17:53:54
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As far as I know, FUSE for Windows is vapor; often proposed, never implemented. However, a possible shortcut path to equivalent functionality is to create a virtual filesystem with the TclVFS package, then make it visible to the operating system via a utility like FTPDrive or NetDrive, with a pure-Tcl FTP server as intermediary. Tomasz Kosiak wrote: > - how about FUSE for Windows > http://www.google.pl/search?q=fuse+windows&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&client=firefox-a > > > |
From: Tomasz K. <tk...@da...> - 2008-08-29 10:15:40
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Here are more suggestion what could be added to your report (http://trac.assembla.com/gsoc2008-tcl_dynamic_libraries/wiki): * add to bare researched URLs comments consisting of 1-3 sentences describing what you've found usfull in linked content * analyze how to load shared lib from Tcl channel (show how could it be reduced to loading from memory) - you should explain this as project subject was ( [...] loading from memory and/or Tcl channel) * discuss RTLD approach feasibility (as this approach was chosen to explore during GSoC) - tracking RTLD sources - incorporating fixes/features from future RTLD releases - incorporating architecture defendant parts - will it be a pain to maintain? (mention John Polstra who suggested it will be a problem - check if I correctly link him to such view) - etc * discuss problem of dependencies in shared libraries loaded from memory (as someone mention Tcl binary extension in the form of *.so/*.dll that are planned to be memory-loadable may be restricted to statically linking dependent shared libraries) - show example how to do static link of zlib Tcl extension (simple example) or/and analyze Tcl GD bindings (http://wiki.tcl.tk/6071,http://wiki.tcl.tk/5141, 2008 Tcl/Tk GSoC AOLserver GD project) which is an example of complex dependencies to jpeg,png,freetype,etc libs). * present more in-depth analysis of alternate approaches (describe how exactly could it be done, how much work is needed to test it in your oppinion, what are constraints of given approach) - /dev/shm (what system support that workaround, permission problems, single lib with no dependencies, etc) - FUSE (supported systems, maybe tclfuse usage) - modify each system linker to have SharedLibMemLoad fuctionality (like we already have in MacOSX) and push our mods to be included in future releases in primary enviroments (Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, Windows) * analyze cooperation between native system linker and RTLD - sketch algorithm details to handle dependencies and what are the consequence (some libraries will be loaded twice, etc.) * explain (or fix) why we cannot run simple libs tests in 64-bit Linux (from rtld-new in SVN) and/or take a look at my old 32-bit Fedora Core 4 environment where they even fail to compile (it suggest poratbility problem in your RTLD modification and it would be good to clarify/fix that) * write down what you've learned about gdb usage to debug RTLD problem * what about testing RTLD under FreeBSD (native environment which have the most changes that it will work flawlessly) * write what we can do about SharedLibMemLoad under windows - there is GNU tool chain for Windows - can we use it to enhance native DLL linker, maybe there is some lib handling windows executable format - how about FUSE for Windows http://www.google.pl/search?q=fuse+windows&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&client=firefox-a * describe your RTLD modification (it seems already done) Probably other mentors could correct and or/add more things. Regards, Tomasz Kosiak |
From: Steve L. <st...@di...> - 2008-08-29 04:27:23
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On 21/08/2008, at 12:06 AM, Matthew M. Burke wrote: > Now that we are in the wrapping up phase of GSoC, I would like to > encourage you (students and mentors) to consider putting together a > brief presentation for the Tcl Conference which will take place this > October outside of Washington, DC. > > > Final surveys are due 1 September. As with the midterm, both mentor > and > student have to complete a survey or else the student wil not get > paid. > Details on the final surveys are available here: > http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/final-survey-information---2008 > > In talking with members of the program committee, I think the > consensus > is that a session of short (~10min) presentations on the projects > would > be of interest to the community and giving a presentation might be a > nice benefit for the students. For students who are unable to attend > the conference, perhaps the mentor could present. If both student and > mentor cannot attend, contact me separately and maybe we can make > another arrangement--I've certainly been to a number of sessions where > third-parties have presented; and there's always Skype and a pair of > decent speakers! I've completed the survey, and will work with the student on preparing a presentation. No idea yet if the student can make it - will discuss. Also, plan to continue collaborating with the student after GSOC completes - and he has expressed interest in maintaining the code he has produced. At least some of the collaboration will be to optimise the code, and improve the documentation. All in all, a very worthwhile exercise Steve > > > Matt > -- > Matthew M. Burke > Assistant Professor of Computer Science > The George Washington University > mm...@gw... > 202.994.0718 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in > the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-soc2008 mailing list > Tcl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-soc2008 |
From: kenshin h. <fou...@gm...> - 2008-08-22 21:26:11
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hello all, my name is raouf and I'm the maintainer of the new libaio (audio in/out lib) wich is the C lib + a tcl extention to handle sound I/O in the simplest way possible you get the latest here: http://cerberus.endofinternet.org/libaio/ take a look and tell what you think thnx and have a nice day all |
From: Matthew M. B. <mm...@gw...> - 2008-08-20 16:07:01
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All, Now that we are in the wrapping up phase of GSoC, I would like to encourage you (students and mentors) to consider putting together a brief presentation for the Tcl Conference which will take place this October outside of Washington, DC. Final surveys are due 1 September. As with the midterm, both mentor and student have to complete a survey or else the student wil not get paid. Details on the final surveys are available here: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/final-survey-information---2008 In talking with members of the program committee, I think the consensus is that a session of short (~10min) presentations on the projects would be of interest to the community and giving a presentation might be a nice benefit for the students. For students who are unable to attend the conference, perhaps the mentor could present. If both student and mentor cannot attend, contact me separately and maybe we can make another arrangement--I've certainly been to a number of sessions where third-parties have presented; and there's always Skype and a pair of decent speakers! Matt -- Matthew M. Burke Assistant Professor of Computer Science The George Washington University mm...@gw... 202.994.0718 |