tcl-mac — Q&A for Tcl on the Macintosh platform

Re: [MACTCL] Notarization for Catalina

[nicolas b. <sl1...@gm...>]

Hi,
I've good results using this app:
https://latenightsw.com/sd-notary-notarizing-made-easy/

my app is distributed with Tcl.framework and Tk.framework and successfully
notarized

++

Le dim. 10 nov. 2019 à 11:57, Jasper Taylor <ja...@si...> a
écrit :

> Has anyone managed to get a TclTk-based package notarized so it will
> install under 10.15 (Catalina) without dire warnings?
>
> All the best, Jasper
>
>
>
>
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[MACTCL] Notarization for Catalina

[Jasper T. <ja...@si...>]

Has anyone managed to get a TclTk-based package notarized so it will 
install under 10.15 (Catalina) without dire warnings?

All the best, Jasper

Re: [MACTCL] Tk8.6.9 About Dialog

[Kevan H. <ha...@br...>]

Dear Kevin,

> You can implement a dialog and call it from the tkAboutDialog proc — that will load it from the “About” menu item.

That works perfectly, thank you. I can't figure out how to edit the ::tk::mac documentation page, else I would add the above line.

Best, Kevan

PS. Viewed a presentation you gave back in 2015 on the Carbon to Cocoa transition. Enjoyed learning about what had gone on.

-- 
Kevan Hashemi, Electrical Engineer
Physics Department, Brandeis University
http://alignment.hep.brandeis.edu/

Re: [MACTCL] Tk8.6.9 About Dialog

[Codebykevin <kw...@co...>]

The default dialogue was removed because it did not play nicely with Mojave.  We may need to document that. You can implement a dialog and call it from the tkAboutDialog proc — that will load it from the “About” menu item. 

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 12:00 AM, Kevan Hashemi <ha...@br...> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Thank you to those who worked on the Carbon to Cocoa translation. I has just upgraded to TclTk 8.6.9 from 8.5.8, I am delighted with the performance of the widgets while the application is working hard. And so far I have encountered only one minor problem: how do I replace the default About dialog in the main menubar?
> 
> In Kevin Walzer's ::tk::mac documentation page:
> 
> https://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TkCmd/tk_mac.htm
> 
> there is a reference to "Apple Technote TN2179", but I can't find that note. What worked on 8.5.8 is not working in 8.6.9. If you can send me a code snipped, I'd be much obliged.
> 
> Best, Kevan
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kevan Hashemi, Electrical Engineer
> Physics Department, Brandeis University
> http://alignment.hep.brandeis.edu/
> 
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[MACTCL] Tk8.6.9 About Dialog

[Kevan H. <ha...@br...>]

Greetings,

Thank you to those who worked on the Carbon to Cocoa translation. I has just upgraded to TclTk 8.6.9 from 8.5.8, I am delighted with the performance of the widgets while the application is working hard. And so far I have encountered only one minor problem: how do I replace the default About dialog in the main menubar?

In Kevin Walzer's ::tk::mac documentation page:

https://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TkCmd/tk_mac.htm

there is a reference to "Apple Technote TN2179", but I can't find that note. What worked on 8.5.8 is not working in 8.6.9. If you can send me a code snipped, I'd be much obliged.

Best, Kevan


-- 
Kevan Hashemi, Electrical Engineer
Physics Department, Brandeis University
http://alignment.hep.brandeis.edu/

[MACTCL] Schedule Up - 26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)

[<con...@tc...>]

Hello tcl-mac, fyi ...

26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)
https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/

November 05 - 08, 2019
Crowne Plaza Houston River Oaks
2712 Southwest Freeway, 77098
Houston, Texas, USA

[ NEWS
  * Our keynote speaker is [Will Duquette](https://github.com/wduquette)
    talking about "Tcl, Rust, and the Death of Rube Goldberg"

  * Registration is open. Please have a look at

    https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/register.html

  * The tutorials are known. See

    https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/tutorials.html
]

And our schedule for this year is now available at

    https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/schedule.html

This is the last general mail for the year.

Conference Committee

   * Andreas Kupries
   * Arjen Markus    Deltares
   * Brian Griffin   Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Gerald Lester   KnG Consulting LLC
   * Joe Mistachkin  Mistachkin Systems
   * Ronald Fox      CAEN Technologies
                     NSCL @ Michigan State University

Contact Information     tcl...@go...

Tcl'2019 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference:

   * FlightAware
   * Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Noumena Corp

[MACTCL] 4th Call For Papers - Extended Deadline - 26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)

[<con...@tc...>]

Today is the original deadline for paper submissions. We are __extending__
this deadline_by one week, to __Sep 16, 2019, i.e. next Monday__.

Hello tcl-mac, fyi ...

26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)
https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/

November 05 - 08, 2019
Crowne Plaza Houston River Oaks
2712 Southwest Freeway, 77098
Houston, Texas, USA

[ NEWS
  * Our keynote speaker is [Will Duquette](https://github.com/wduquette)
    talking about "Tcl, Rust, and the Death of Rube Goldberg"

  * [Submission is open](https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/cfp.html)

    We are at the original deadline for submissions. It has been extended
    by one week.

  * Registration is open. Please have a look at

    https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/register.html

  * The tutorials are known. See

    https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/tutorials.html
]

Important Dates:

Abstracts and proposals due   September 09, 2019  ** Extended by a week **
Notification to authors       September 16, 2019
WIP and BOF reservations open August 12, 2019
Registration opens            September 09, 2019     ** open already **
Author materials due          October 14, 2019
Tutorials Start               November 04, 2019
Conference starts             November 06, 2019

Email Contact:                tcl...@go...

Submission of Summaries

Tcl/Tk 2019 will be held in Houston, Texas, USA from November 05, 2019 to November 08, 2019.

The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals
from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past
conferences (Proceedings: https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/conferences.html)
have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics including:

* Scientific and engineering applications
* Industrial controls
* Distributed applications and Network Managment
* Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk
* New widgets for Tk
* Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk
* Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments
* Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices
* Medical applications and visualization
* Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new
  directions.
* New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language

Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a
summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text
to tcl...@go... no later than September 09, 2019. Authors of accepted
abstracts will have until October 14, 2019 to submit their final
paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings
will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as
presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are
encouraged.

Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com
Online proceedings will appear via
	https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/conferences.html

The authors will have 30 minutes to present their paper at
the conference.

The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the
following criteria:

* Quantity and quality of novel content
* Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community
* Suitability of content for presentation at the conference

Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but
those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted.

Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between
background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to
the application. Application and experience papers should clearly
explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of
Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the
application or experience to apply to their own development efforts.

Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to
the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest
confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a
matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976.

The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration
to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate.

Other Forms of Participation

The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of
up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed
panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position
statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four
speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for
substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations
of related research papers.

Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather
sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis
starting in August 12, 2019. Specific instructions for reserving WIP
and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information
available in August 12, 2019. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open
for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in
progress should consider reserving a WIP slot.

Registration Information

More information on the conference is available the conference Web
site (https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/) and will be
published on various Tcl/Tk-related information channels.

To keep in touch with news regarding the conference, subscribe to the
tcl...@go... list. See:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tclconference for list
information, archive, and subscription.

To keep in touch with Tcl events in general, subscribe to the
tcl-announce list. See: https://code.activestate.com/lists/tcl-announce
for list information, archive, and subscription.

Conference Committee

   * Andreas Kupries
   * Arjen Markus    Deltares
   * Brian Griffin   Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Gerald Lester   KnG Consulting LLC
   * Joe Mistachkin  Mistachkin Systems
   * Ronald Fox      CAEN Technologies
                     NSCL @ Michigan State University

Contact Information     tcl...@go...

Tcl'2019 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference:

   * FlightAware
   * Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Noumena Corp

[MACTCL] 3rd Call For Papers - 26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)

[<con...@tc...>]

Hello tcl-mac, fyi ...

26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)
https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/

November 04 - 08, 2019
Crowne Plaza Houston River Oaks
2712 Southwest Freeway, 77098
Houston, Texas, USA

[ NEWS
  * Our keynote speaker is [Will Duquette](https://github.com/wduquette)
    talking about "Tcl, Rust, and the Death of Rube Goldberg"

  * [Submission is open](https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/cfp.html)

    It is 4 weeks to the deadline.

  * Registration is open. Please have a look at

    https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/register.html

  * The tutorials are known. See

    https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/tutorials.html
]

Important Dates:

Abstracts and proposals due   September 09, 2019
Notification to authors       September 16, 2019
WIP and BOF reservations open August 12, 2019     ** may change **
Registration opens            September 09, 2019     ** open already **
Author materials due          October 14, 2019
Tutorials Start               November 04, 2019
Conference starts             November 06, 2019

Email Contact:                tcl...@go...

Submission of Summaries

Tcl/Tk 2019 will be held in Houston, Texas, USA from November 04, 2019 to November 08, 2019.

The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals
from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past
conferences (Proceedings: https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/conferences.html)
have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics including:

* Scientific and engineering applications
* Industrial controls
* Distributed applications and Network Managment
* Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk
* New widgets for Tk
* Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk
* Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments
* Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices
* Medical applications and visualization
* Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new
  directions.
* New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language

Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a
summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text
to tcl...@go... no later than September 09, 2019. Authors of accepted
abstracts will have until October 14, 2019 to submit their final
paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings
will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as
presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are
encouraged.

Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com
Online proceedings will appear via
	https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/conferences.html

The authors will have 30 minutes to present their paper at
the conference.

The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the
following criteria:

* Quantity and quality of novel content
* Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community
* Suitability of content for presentation at the conference

Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but
those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted.

Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between
background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to
the application. Application and experience papers should clearly
explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of
Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the
application or experience to apply to their own development efforts.

Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to
the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest
confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a
matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976.

The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration
to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate.

Other Forms of Participation

The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of
up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed
panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position
statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four
speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for
substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations
of related research papers.

Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather
sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis
starting in August 12, 2019. Specific instructions for reserving WIP
and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information
available in August 12, 2019. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open
for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in
progress should consider reserving a WIP slot.

Registration Information

More information on the conference is available the conference Web
site (https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/) and will be
published on various Tcl/Tk-related information channels.

To keep in touch with news regarding the conference, subscribe to the
tcl...@go... list. See:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tclconference for list
information, archive, and subscription.

To keep in touch with Tcl events in general, subscribe to the
tcl-announce list. See: https://code.activestate.com/lists/tcl-announce
for list information, archive, and subscription.

Conference Committee

   * Andreas Kupries
   * Arjen Markus    Deltares
   * Brian Griffin   Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Gerald Lester   KnG Consulting LLC
   * Joe Mistachkin  Mistachkin Systems
   * Ronald Fox      CAEN Technologies
                     NSCL @ Michigan State University

Contact Information     tcl...@go...

Tcl'2019 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference:

   * FlightAware
   * Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Noumena Corp

[MACTCL] 2nd Call For Papers - 26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)

[<con...@tc...>]

Hello tcl-mac, fyi ...

26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)
https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/

November 04 - 08, 2019
Crowne Plaza Houston River Oaks
2712 Southwest Freeway, 77098
Houston, Texas, USA

[ NEWS
 * Our keynote speaker is [Will Duquette](https://github.com/wduquette)
   talking about "Tcl, Rust, and the Death of Rube Goldberg"

 * [Submission is open](https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/cfp.html)
]

Important Dates:

Abstracts and proposals due   September 09, 2019
Notification to authors       September 16, 2019
WIP and BOF reservations open August 12, 2019     ** may change **
Registration opens            September 09, 2019     ** may change **
Author materials due          October 14, 2019
Tutorials Start               November 04, 2019
Conference starts             November 06, 2019

Email Contact:                tcl...@go...

Submission of Summaries

Tcl/Tk 2019 will be held in Houston, Texas, USA from November 04, 2019 to November 08, 2019.

The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals
from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past
conferences (Proceedings: https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/conferences.html)
have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics including:

* Scientific and engineering applications
* Industrial controls
* Distributed applications and Network Managment
* Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk
* New widgets for Tk
* Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk
* Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments
* Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices
* Medical applications and visualization
* Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new
  directions.
* New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language

Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a
summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text
to tcl...@go... no later than September 09, 2019. Authors of accepted
abstracts will have until October 14, 2019 to submit their final
paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings
will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as
presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are
encouraged.

Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com
Online proceedings will appear via
	https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/conferences.html

The authors will have 30 minutes to present their paper at
the conference.

The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the
following criteria:

* Quantity and quality of novel content
* Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community
* Suitability of content for presentation at the conference

Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but
those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted.

Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between
background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to
the application. Application and experience papers should clearly
explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of
Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the
application or experience to apply to their own development efforts.

Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to
the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest
confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a
matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976.

The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration
to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate.

Other Forms of Participation

The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of
up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed
panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position
statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four
speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for
substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations
of related research papers.

Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather
sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis
starting in August 12, 2019. Specific instructions for reserving WIP
and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information
available in August 12, 2019. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open
for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in
progress should consider reserving a WIP slot.

Registration Information

More information on the conference is available the conference Web
site (https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/) and will be
published on various Tcl/Tk-related information channels.

To keep in touch with news regarding the conference, subscribe to the
tcl...@go... list. See:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tclconference for list
information, archive, and subscription.

To keep in touch with Tcl events in general, subscribe to the
tcl-announce list. See: https://code.activestate.com/lists/tcl-announce
for list information, archive, and subscription.

Conference Committee

   * Andreas Kupries
   * Arjen Markus    Deltares
   * Brian Griffin   Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Gerald Lester   KnG Consulting LLC
   * Joe Mistachkin  Mistachkin Systems
   * Ronald Fox      CAEN Technologies
                     NSCL @ Michigan State University

Contact Information     tcl...@go...

Tcl'2019 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference:

   * FlightAware
   * Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Noumena Corp

[MACTCL] Last reminder: Registration for EuroTcl 2019 ends June, 7th

[Paul-Tcl3D <pa...@tc...>]

Dear Tcl'ers,

The Tcl'ers User Group Munich (TUGM) and Reinhard Max
proudly present the 17th European Tcl/Tk User Meeting.

It will take place on the weekend of 29th and 30th of June 2019
in Nuremberg at the SUSE headquarters.

Registration is possible until June, 7th at
http://www.eurotcl.eu/registration.html


Best regards,

Reinhard and Paul

[MACTCL] Reminder: Registration for EuroTcl 2019 ends in 1 week

[Paul-Tcl3D <pa...@tc...>]

Dear Tcl'ers,

The Tcl'ers User Group Munich (TUGM) and Reinhard Max
proudly present the 17th European Tcl/Tk User Meeting.

It will take place on the weekend of 29th and 30th of June 2019
in Nuremberg at the SUSE headquarters.

Registration is possible until June, 7th at
http://www.eurotcl.eu/registration.html


Best regards,

Reinhard and Paul

Re: [MACTCL] install issues

[Cizmas, P. <ci...@ta...>]

Hi Tim:

Thank you for your reply and advice!

I checked stdio.h and it is located, as it should be, at 

/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include

I checked to see what compiler is using and I get:

macosx$ which cc
/usr/bin/cc

Should cc point to another cc?

Thank you,
Paul

> On May 13, 2019, at 11:27 PM, Tim Jones <tj...@to...> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Cizmas, Paul <ci...@ta...> wrote:
>> 
>> I can easily change the order in my path, but the current order does not appear to preclude me from compiling c files that use stdio.h.
>> 
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> If stdio.h is missing from your system, you need to reinstall Xcode.  That header file is located here for MacOSX system use:
> 
> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/stdio.h
> 
> Therefore, either the file has been clobbered or the Xcode installation is corrupt.  Or, if you're not using Xcode and instead have gcc from another source, it's headers are messed up.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MACTCL] install issues

[Tim J. <tj...@to...>]

> On May 13, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Cizmas, Paul <ci...@ta...> wrote:
> 
> I can easily change the order in my path, but the current order does not appear to preclude me from compiling c files that use stdio.h.
> 

Hi Paul,

If stdio.h is missing from your system, you need to reinstall Xcode.  That header file is located here for MacOSX system use:

/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/stdio.h

Therefore, either the file has been clobbered or the Xcode installation is corrupt.  Or, if you're not using Xcode and instead have gcc from another source, it's headers are messed up.

Tim

Re: [MACTCL] install issues

[Cizmas, P. <ci...@ta...>]

Kevin:

Thank you for your reply!

I have an older version (8.5) that works, which I got from fink, I believe.  I want to install the latest version from the distribution.

I can easily change the order in my path, but the current order does not appear to preclude me from compiling c files that use stdio.h.

Paul


On May 13, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Kevin Walzer <kw...@co...<mailto:kw...@co...>> wrote:

On 5/13/19 9:21 PM, Cizmas, Paul wrote:
Hello:

I am trying to install tcl8.6.9 on an OS X 10.14.4.

The configure fails because of not finding stdio.h.

I have no issues, however, compiling c files that use stdio.h.

I attached the config.log file, in case somebody can suggest a fix.

Thank you,
Paul


Hard to say exactly what is going on, but it appears that /opt is first in your path? That's non-standard for Mac, generally used with a MacPorts installation. Why not install through MacPorts?

Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
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Re: [MACTCL] install issues

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 5/13/19 9:21 PM, Cizmas, Paul wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I am trying to install tcl8.6.9 on an OS X 10.14.4.
>
> The configure fails because of not finding stdio.h.
>
> I have no issues, however, compiling c files that use stdio.h.
>
> I attached the config.log file, in case somebody can suggest a fix.
>
> Thank you,
> Paul
>
Hard to say exactly what is going on, but it appears that /opt is first 
in your path? That's non-standard for Mac, generally used with a 
MacPorts installation. Why not install through MacPorts?

Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com

[MACTCL] install issues

[Cizmas, P. <ci...@ta...>]

Hello:

I am trying to install tcl8.6.9 on an OS X 10.14.4.

The configure fails because of not finding stdio.h.

I have no issues, however, compiling c files that use stdio.h.

I attached the config.log file, in case somebody can suggest a fix.

Thank you,
Paul

[MACTCL] Reminder: Register for EuroTcl 2019 in Nuremberg

[Paul-Tcl3D <pa...@tc...>]

Dear Tcl'ers,

The Tcl'ers User Group Munich (TUGM) and Reinhard Max
proudly present the 17th European Tcl/Tk User Meeting.

It will take place on the weekend of 29th and 30th of June 2019
in Nuremberg at the SUSE headquarters.

Registration is possible until June, 7th at
http://www.eurotcl.eu/registration.html


Best regards,

Reinhard and Paul

[MACTCL] 1st Call For Papers - 26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)

[<con...@tc...>]

Hello tcl-mac, fyi ...

26th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2019)
https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/

November 04 - 08, 2019
Crowne Plaza Houston River Oaks
2712 Southwest Freeway, 77098
Houston, Texas, USA

[ NEWS
 * [Submission is open](https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/cfp.html)
]

Important Dates:

Abstracts and proposals due   September 09, 2019
Notification to authors       September 16, 2019
WIP and BOF reservations open August 12, 2019     ** may change **
Registration opens            September 09, 2019     ** may change **
Author materials due          October 14, 2019
Tutorials Start               November 04, 2019
Conference starts             November 06, 2019

Email Contact:                tcl...@go...

Submission of Summaries

Tcl/Tk 2019 will be held in Houston, Texas, USA from November 04, 2019 to November 08, 2019.

The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals
from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past
conferences (Proceedings: https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/conferences.html)
have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics including:

* Scientific and engineering applications
* Industrial controls
* Distributed applications and Network Managment
* Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk
* New widgets for Tk
* Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk
* Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments
* Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices
* Medical applications and visualization
* Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new
  directions.
* New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language

Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a
summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text
to tcl...@go... no later than September 09, 2019. Authors of accepted
abstracts will have until October 14, 2019 to submit their final
paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings
will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as
presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are
encouraged.

Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com
Online proceedings will appear via
	https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/conferences.html

The authors will have 30 minutes to present their paper at
the conference.

The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the
following criteria:

* Quantity and quality of novel content
* Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community
* Suitability of content for presentation at the conference

Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but
those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted.

Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between
background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to
the application. Application and experience papers should clearly
explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of
Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the
application or experience to apply to their own development efforts.

Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to
the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest
confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a
matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976.

The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration
to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate.

Other Forms of Participation

The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of
up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed
panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position
statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four
speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for
substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations
of related research papers.

Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather
sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis
starting in August 12, 2019. Specific instructions for reserving WIP
and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information
available in August 12, 2019. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open
for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in
progress should consider reserving a WIP slot.

Registration Information

More information on the conference is available the conference Web
site (https://www.tcl-lang.org/community/tcl2019/) and will be
published on various Tcl/Tk-related information channels.

To keep in touch with news regarding the conference, subscribe to the
tcl...@go... list. See:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tclconference for list
information, archive, and subscription.

To keep in touch with Tcl events in general, subscribe to the
tcl-announce list. See: https://code.activestate.com/lists/tcl-announce
for list information, archive, and subscription.

Conference Committee

   * Andreas Kupries
   * Arjen Markus    Deltares
   * Brian Griffin   Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Gerald Lester   KnG Consulting LLC
   * Joe Mistachkin  Mistachkin Systems
   * Ronald Fox      CAEN Technologies
                     NSCL @ Michigan State University

Contact Information     tcl...@go...

Tcl'2019 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference:

   * FlightAware
   * Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Noumena Corp

[MACTCL] Fwd: TIP 536: Improvements to Mac-specific IPC in Tk

[Codebykevin <kw...@co...>]

That’s TIP 536.  Sorry for the typo. 


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kevin Walzer <kw...@co...>
> Date: April 12, 2019 at 7:12:38 AM EDT
> To: "tc...@li... List" <tc...@li...>
> Subject: [MACTCL] TIP 536: Improvements to Mac-specific IPC in Tk
> Reply-To: kw...@co...
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've already announced this on Tcl-Core, but as it's Mac-specific I'm highlighting here as well.
> 
> I'd like to propose TIP #533 for review.
> 
> This TIP aims enhance IPC between Tk and other applications on the Mac.
> 
> Specifically, the TIP proposes to achieve its goals by adding three new commands; changing the signature of an existing command; and improving the documentation of Mac-based IPC in general in Tk's man pages. These commands implement and improve functionality in the Mac's Services and Apple Event API's.
> 
> It targets 8.6 rather than 8.7. I understand that is not the usual process, but given the constant rate of API churn on the Mac, Tk there seems to be in a continual state of development--cf. all the good work Marc Culler has done on adapting Tk to run on Mojave.
> 
> The proposal can be viewed in more detail here:
> 
> https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/536.md
> 
> The implementation can be reviewed here:
> 
> https://core.tcl.tk/tk/timeline?r=mac_services
> 
> Comments, suggestions and questions are solicited. Steve Landers has graciously agreed to sponsor this TIP and I will ask him to call a vote once the comment period is complete.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -- 
> Kevin Walzer
> Code by Kevin
> http://www.codebykevin.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Tcl-mac mailing list
> tc...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac
> 

[MACTCL] TIP 536: Improvements to Mac-specific IPC in Tk

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

Hi all,

I've already announced this on Tcl-Core, but as it's Mac-specific I'm 
highlighting here as well.

I'd like to propose TIP #533 for review.

This TIP aims enhance IPC between Tk and other applications on the Mac.

Specifically, the TIP proposes to achieve its goals by adding three new 
commands; changing the signature of an existing command; and improving 
the documentation of Mac-based IPC in general in Tk's man pages. These 
commands implement and improve functionality in the Mac's Services and 
Apple Event API's.

It targets 8.6 rather than 8.7. I understand that is not the usual 
process, but given the constant rate of API churn on the Mac, Tk there 
seems to be in a continual state of development--cf. all the good work 
Marc Culler has done on adapting Tk to run on Mojave.

The proposal can be viewed in more detail here:

https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/536.md

The implementation can be reviewed here:

https://core.tcl.tk/tk/timeline?r=mac_services

Comments, suggestions and questions are solicited. Steve Landers has 
graciously agreed to sponsor this TIP and I will ask him to call a vote 
once the comment period is complete.

Thanks,

Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com

Re: [MACTCL] TCL to iOS app?

[Christopher C. <chr...@gm...>]

> On Oct 18, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Simon Dorfman <si...@ya...> <mailto:si...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have a soft spot in my heart for an old game written in TCL/TK:
> https://github.com/spellfire/crossfire <https://github.com/spellfire/crossfire>
> ...and I just managed to get it working on my Mac again. And it got me thinking, has anyone developed a way to convert a TCL program to an iOS app? I did some googling and didn't find anything so I thought I'd ask this list.
> Thanks,
> Simon


Hi Simon, I'm a newer Tcl/Tk user and not familiar with this topic specifically, but here's some things I could find. In short, while there have been some efforts for Tcl/Tk on iOS, and there is currently a way to run Tcl scripts on iOS, there doesn't seem to be much as that's ready to use for Tk for GUI on iOS.

Note that I'm interpreting your question of "converting" a program for iOS as equivalent to running the program as-is on a Tcl/Tk port for iOS.

The Tcl Wiki has this page: https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/iOS <https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/iOS> , but all it has is a link to Wikipedia. Ideally that might be a good place to keep track of anything related to this topic.

It looks like this has been brought up a few times before. Here’s one of the earlier threads:
https://code.activestate.com/lists/tcl-mac/1189/
 <https://code.activestate.com/lists/tcl-mac/1189/>
This response in particular notes not just the technical challenge of getting Tk working on iOS, but also that the desktop UI/UX for mice and keyboards, which Tk is designed for, might not be ideal for touchscreens and smartphones.

Some ideas or prototypes for Tk on iOS have appeared in past Tcl/Tk Conference Proceedings, and a few have their own pages on Tcl Wiki.

- APWTCL (Objective C version, https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/APWTCL+%28Objective+C%29 <https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/APWTCL+(Objective+C)>) allows Tcl itself to be used in a native iOS app, but does not provide Tk for GUI. So with APWTCL, any Tcl can be used for the "business logic" of the program, while the UI might be redone in e.g. Objective C for iOS compatibility.

- WubTk (https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/WubTk <https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/WubTk>) is a newer approach to running Tk in a browser without a plugin (i.e. unlike the older "Tcl Plugin" for desktop browsers). This sounds like the closest thing to have had Tk working on iOS.

- NaTcl (https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/NaTcl <https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/NaTcl>) is Tcl for Chrome/Chromium browsers’ NaCl platform, and which planned to adapt WubTk into NaTk. (NaCl is being discontinued in favor of WebAssembly, which is supported by other major browsers and recent iOS versions; I haven’t found if that’s what any of these projects intend to move over to.)

- WTK for APWTCL (https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/WTK+for+APWTCL <https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/WTK+for+APWTCL>) is another idea that proposed using OpenGL ES for GUI (though that is now deprecated as of iOS 12).

- A couple years ago someone posted a job bulletin for porting Tk to iOS (https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/Offering+TCL+Jobs#e035a00e8c6f3526cdff680cea2e2f5bf1dd34afffe53000c47dba285126b8fc <https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/Offering+TCL+Jobs#e035a00e8c6f3526cdff680cea2e2f5bf1dd34afffe53000c47dba285126b8fc>), presumably by extending the Androwish project (Tcl/Tk for Android, https://www.androwish.org <https://www.androwish.org/>). I have no idea if anything became of that.

Of these, sometimes the goal is to provide an incomplete "Tk-like" API rather than one that is compatible with existing Tk. So they may not support all features or will require new/rewritten code in order to support iOS.

With the exception of Androwish, I don't know if any of these are actively maintained.

There is also plenty more discussion out there on Tk for web browsers in general.

These are just some scattered notes, but I hope this helps give an idea of what's out there.

Christopher A. Chavez

[MACTCL] TCL to iOS app?

[Simon D. <si...@ya...>]

Hello,
I have a soft spot in my heart for an old game written in TCL/TK:
https://github.com/spellfire/crossfire
...and I just managed to get it working on my Mac again. And it got me
thinking, *has anyone developed a way to convert a TCL program to an iOS
app?* I did some googling and didn't find anything so I thought I'd ask
this list.
Thanks,
Simon

[MACTCL] 4th Call For Papers - 25th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2018)

[<con...@tc...>]

Hello tcl-mac, fyi ...

25th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2018)
http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2018/

October 15 - 19, 2018
Crowne Plaza Houston River Oaks
2712 Southwest Freeway, 77098
Houston, Texas, USA

Important Dates:

[[ Attention!

   Counting down we are now bit a shy of 4 weeks to the submission
   deadline.

 * [Registration is open](https://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2018/register.html)

 * [Submission is open](https://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2018/cfp.html)

 * Our Keynote speaker is
   [Andrea Casotto](https://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2018/bios.html#acasotto)

 * [The tutorials are known](http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2018/tutorials.html)
   Just follow the link.
]]

Important Dates:

Abstracts and proposals due   August 20, 2018
Notification to authors       August 27, 2018
WIP and BOF reservations open July 23, 2018     ** may change **
Registration opens            IS OPEN
Author materials due          September 24, 2018
Tutorials Start               October 15, 2018
Conference starts             October 17, 2018

Email Contact:                tcl...@go...

Submission of Summaries

Tcl/Tk 2018 will be held in Houston, Texas, USA from October 15, 2018 to October 19, 2018.

The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals
from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past
conferences (Proceedings: http://www.tcl.tk/community/conferences.html)
have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics including:

* Scientific and engineering applications
* Industrial controls
* Distributed applications and Network Managment
* Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk
* New widgets for Tk
* Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk
* Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments
* Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices
* Medical applications and visualization
* Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new
  directions.
* New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language

Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a
summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text
to tcl...@go... no later than August 20, 2018. Authors of accepted
abstracts will have until September 24, 2018 to submit their final
paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings
will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as
presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are
encouraged.

Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com
Online proceedings will appear via
	http://www.tcl.tk/community/conferences.html

The authors will have 30 minutes to present their paper at
the conference.

The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the
following criteria:

* Quantity and quality of novel content
* Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community
* Suitability of content for presentation at the conference

Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but
those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted.

Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between
background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to
the application. Application and experience papers should clearly
explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of
Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the
application or experience to apply to their own development efforts.

Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to
the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest
confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a
matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976.

The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration
to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate.

Other Forms of Participation

The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of
up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed
panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position
statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four
speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for
substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations
of related research papers.

Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather
sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis
starting in July 23, 2018. Specific instructions for reserving WIP
and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information
available in July 23, 2018. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open
for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in
progress should consider reserving a WIP slot.

Registration Information

More information on the conference is available the conference Web
site (http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2018/) and will be published on
various Tcl/Tk-related information channels.

To keep in touch with news regarding the conference, subscribe to the
tcl...@go... list. See:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tclconference for list
information, archive, and subscription.

To keep in touch with Tcl events in general, subscribe to the
tcl-announce list. See: http://code.activestate.com/lists/tcl-announce
for list information, archive, and subscription.

Conference Committee

   * Alexandre Ferrieux
   * Andreas Kupries
   * Arjen Markus       Deltares
   * Brian Griffin      Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Clif Flynt         Noumena Corp
   * Gerald Lester      RubyLane
   * Joe Mistachkin     Mistachkin Systems
   * Ronald Fox         CAEN Technologies
                        NSCL @ Michigan State University
   * Steve Landers      Digital Smarties

Contact Information     tcl...@go...

Tcl'2018 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference:

   * ActiveState Inc
   * FlightAware
   * Mentor - A Siemens Business
   * Noumena Corp
   * Tcl Community Association

Re: [MACTCL] State of Activestate

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

Hi Peter,

On 7/2/18 2:18 AM, Peter Caffin wrote:
>
> Looking at the Github, I can't find Teacup in the repo, either in the
> Teapot folders or as a separate source tree. Has this been released yet?
>
> Has anyone had success or problems with TDK from the repo? Any quirks to
> know about?
>
> Who is managing the Teapot repository these days? Is the collection of
> packages a full one, or is the 64-bit collection still limited as it was
> under ActiveState (unless you paid the USD $600-odd per year)?
>
It's my understanding that the entire ActiveState TDK/Teapot/Teacup 
infrastructure is now unmaintained--they open-sourced these bits and 
turned them over to "the community" because they no longer sell or 
support these products.

Roy Keene appears to have set up some sort of Teapot repo at 
http://teaparty.rkeene.org/fossil/home--that may help with the packages. 
Roy also provides pre-built Tclkits at 
http://tclkits.rkeene.org/fossil/wiki/Downloads. His infrastructure here 
is awe-inspiring.

I don't think anyone has taken up the TDK products, nor do I expect 
anyone to.

--Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

[MACTCL] State of Activestate

[Peter C. <pe...@ca...>]

Hi folks,

I've been away from Tcl apps development for a while, and just looking
back  to find Teapot/Teacup and Tcl Dev Kit have both been made open
source.

Looking at the Github, I can't find Teacup in the repo, either in the
Teapot folders or as a separate source tree. Has this been released yet?

Has anyone had success or problems with TDK from the repo? Any quirks to
know about?

Who is managing the Teapot repository these days? Is the collection of
packages a full one, or is the 64-bit collection still limited as it was
under ActiveState (unless you paid the USD $600-odd per year)?

Apologies for the question deluge.

Thanks,


Peter.