Re: [MACTCL] wish from the terminal window

[Jim I. <ji...@ap...>]

Michael,

This is the way all apps launched through exec behave on X.  So I guess 
somebody designed it, but not me :-)  Note, BTW, that if you use 
/usr/bin/wish to open the wish shell, then Activating that after launch 
wouldn't do any good anyway, because that is just a shell script that 
launches the real wish...

Of course there is nothing I can do about launching from the Terminal.  
I guess I could change Wish so that it foreground's itself when it gets 
to the event loop, but apps that do this really tick me off, so I am 
not inclined to...

I don't even think it is a good idea for us to blanket foreground any 
app you launch through exec, though.  That seems undesirable in some 
cases.

The correct thing to do is to have the launching app send an activate 
event to the child application after it is launched.  That's what 
things like the "open" terminal command do.

A super-cheesy way to do this is:

osascript -e 'tell application "Wish Shell" to activate'

for instance...  This is going to fail if all your Wish based apps have 
the same signature (i.e. if you just launch  them with "wish foo.tcl" ) 
  The AE Manager won'tYou would have to make separate applets with 
different App names & signatures for this to work.  This isn't hard to 
do, BTW, it just involves making a copy of the Wish Shell, and editing 
the plist a bit...

It would be cool if we could do this for you, some extension of "tk 
appname" maybe...  But, the App name for Mac OS X is registered by the 
window server when the App starts.  I don't think there is any way you 
can change this dynamically from within the app.

You could also do this with tclAE.  I don't know whether tclAE can send 
to an app by PID.  Mac OS X supports a typeKernelProcessID addressing 
mode as well as the Classic typeProcessSerialNumber so it should be 
possible to make this work.  Does anybody else know...

Jim


On Mar 25, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Michael McFarlane wrote:

> When launching wish from the terminal window (via /usr/bin/wish), the
> application launches but a user must manually "pop" the application to 
> the
> foreground by clicking on the window or by clicking on the icon in the 
> dock.
> The same holds true if a wish shell is launched from within another 
> wish
> shell.  The child comes up behind the parent.  If the child is smaller 
> than
> the parent, then you must move the parent out of the way to find the 
> child.
>
> Is this a bug, or was this done on purpose?  Is there a way around this
> operationally?  The reason I ask is because our org uses a whole suite 
> of
> wish scripts that were built for Linux and X windows, many of which 
> spawn
> off children.  Most everything works well on TclTkAqua except for the
> inconvenience of popping the child windows to the foreground.
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Mike M.
>
>
>
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