Re: [TCLCORE] TIP 715 - Supported platforms and build environments for Tcl/Tk 9.1

[Harald O. <har...@el...>]

I think, the main point is a maintainer, which commits to test releases 
and to check failure tickets.

I have changed the TIP in this way and propose a wiki page with maintainers.

Is this a good idea?

About the time_t 64 bit, I did not do any modifications. For me, the 
post had to many "may" like "a warning may be issued". Is this warning 
implemented? Or shall a warning be required?
I have no opinion on Linux and understand that it is a very moving 
target. It may disqualify small platforms like controllers which 
eventually do not have a RTC at all and the time is irrelevant.

Thanks for all,
Harald

Am 01.05.2025 um 04:41 schrieb Ashok Nadkarni via Tcl-Core:
> I had originally suggested the two developer requirement. My thought at 
> the time was that any future enhancement on the platform, such as TIP 
> 458 on *ix or some future support of IOCP on Windows, would have at 
> least one reviewer with competency on that platform, as well as someone 
> who could fix related bugs in case of unavailability of the original 
> implementor for whatever reason.
> 
> The TIP is now focused on what is tested for a release rather than 
> future development. In that case, the developer requirement could be 
> dropped completely. As long as someone signs up to test a platform 
> before release, that should suffice as a tested platform for that release.
> 
> /Ashok
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Steve Landers <st...@di...>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2025 2:43 PM
> *To:* apn...@ya... <apn...@ya...>; tcl- 
> co...@li... <tcl...@li...>
> *Cc:* Pietro Cerutti <ga...@ga...>
> *Subject:* Re: [TCLCORE] TIP 715 - Supported platforms and build 
> environments for Tcl/Tk 9.1
> Further to what Pietro has said,  I cannot see why a *nix variant (or 
> even a Linux distro) should require two maintainers when that is the 
> same number are required for Windows and macOS,  both of which are quite 
> different from a *nix/X11 platform.
> 
> Surely it is enough for the test suite for a release to pass for a 
> platform to be considered tested, irrespective of the number of developers?
> 
> -- Steve
> On 30 Apr 2025 at 4:21 PM +0800, Pietro Cerutti via Tcl-Core <tcl- 
> co...@li...>, wrote:
>> On Mar 13 2025, 11:53 +0000, apnmbx-public--- via Tcl-Core <tcl- 
>> co...@li...> wrote:
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>>> All,
>>>
>>> In Tuesday's online meet, the need for formally defining supported
>>> platforms
>>> was raised (triggered by Francois' post regarding macOS/XQuartz). As
>>> suggested by Harald, I've committed TIP 715
>>> (https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/715.md) as a starting point
>>> for discussion. I have no idea what to include for platforms other than
>>> Windows.
>>
>> I regularly test Tcl/Tk, and several other extensions on FreeBSD. I am
>> the one behind tc...@Fr..., and I maintain a lot of Tcl/Tk-related
>> ports on FreeBSD.
>>
>> I don't qualify as "At least two developers committing to development
>> and testing for that item", but I think as long as I'm around, we can
>> consider FreeBSD as "tested".
>>
>> As for CI, there's https://cirrus-ci.com/ which offers FreeBSD platforms
>> and can be integrated in GitHub, or we could use
>> https://github.com/vmactions/freebsd-vm/. Happy to help out setting that
>> up.
>>
>> --
>> Pietro Cerutti
>> I have pledged to give 10% of income to effective charities
>> and invite you