Re: [TCLCORE] Tcl user forum?

[Marc C. <cul...@gm...>]

I don't think that Google Groups is going away.  Other projects use it for
discussion.  It is just the synchronization with usenet that stopped
working.

I don't think there is any obstacle to creating, say,  a tcl-support Google
Group.

- Marc

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 9:12 AM Patrick May <dus...@gm...>
wrote:

> With google groups going away, I think it's a bit of a problem that the
> main community hub for Tcl is on usenet. Actually, even if google groups
> weren't going away, I think it's still a problem - I think Tcl/Tk is
> suffering from a lack of a properly accessible and usable community
> forum that encourages Tcl users to get together and discuss their
> projects/tips/tricks, and potentially draw new users to the language.
>
> - Usenet is pretty obscure now and isn't very user friendly or welcoming
> in the modern age, and as I understood it, in order to use it, you have
> to pay for service or run a server yourself manually if you don't want
> to pay.
> I was recently looking into usenet just so I could post on comp.lang.tcl
> and after encountering those issues, I eventually just gave up.
>
> - The Tcler's Wiki is pretty good and a lot more accessible, but the
> wiki format is a bit awkward for discussion and the user interface isn't
> really the best. I've posted there a bit.
>
> - I've sometimes seen TkChat mentioned on this mailinglist, I tried it
> once and it failed to run on my linux system, printing an error message
> and exiting immediately. I wasn't able to get it to work.
>
> - There's an IRC channel, but IRC is another old-fashioned thing that's
> not very commonly used these days. But it's at least more accessible
> than usenet.
>
> All this isn't good if we don't want Tcl to fade away into obscurity,
> and if we want to get new users and attention.
> I think it'd be ideal if some sort of new community discussion site were
> to be set up, perhaps some sort of online forum, but I'm not really sure
> what would be best.
>
> - PM
>
> On 14/08/2024 13:25, Gerald Lester wrote:
> > Very few people had access to make an announcement on www.tcl.tk.
> >
> > The Google Groups was just a mirror of the comp.lang.tcl -- so yes, you
> > should use comp.lang.tcl for announcements.
> >
> > On 8/14/24 03:08, Gustaf Neumann (sslmail) wrote:
> >> Dear all.
> >>
> >> What is nowadays the best place for Tcl relevant announcements  (like
> >> [1]), which are not core related)?
> >> The usual place was [2], and it is still announced on [3] that
> >> "comp.lang.tcl remains the best forum for Tcl/Tk discussions” (links
> >> to [2]).
> >> In essence [2] appears to be dead.
> >>
> >> Is it time to go backt to usenet news? Go to twitter/x [4]? Create a
> >> “tcl-user” mailing list? Provide an RSS feed?
> >> Have I missed something?
> >>
> >> The page [3] (and below) should receive an update.
> >>
> >> All the best
> >> -g
> >>
> >> [1] https://openacs.org/forums/message-view?message_id=5831311
> >> [2] https://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl
> >> [3] https://www.tcl.tk/
> >> [4] https://x.com/tcllang
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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