Re: [MACTCL] Ponderings of an open source developer...

[George S. <gbj...@at...>]

Thanks Jim, for reminding me that I had ordered and received the
$20 developers tools on CD-ROM from December 2001 but forgot to
install them and had forgot where I put the CD-ROM.  Well, to make
a long story short, I found the CD-ROM, installed them on my
PowerBook Pismo, and was astounded by the impressively huge
array of development tools sitting on my little laptop!!!  All the stuff
in the Developers folder was amazing - I'm going to have to get a
book on developing on MacOS X and dive in - it looks like a lot of fun!

As an illustration, here is good ol' gcc (called cc on MacOS X, like
the good ol' days of UNIX) as shown in a Terminal window:

[localhost:~] gbs% uname -a
Darwin localhost 5.2 Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec  7 21:39:35 PST 
2001; root:xnu/xnu-201.14.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh powerpc
[localhost:~] gbs% cc -v
Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/2.95.2/specs
Apple Computer, Inc. version gcc-934.3, based on gcc version 2.95.2 
19991024 (release)
[localhost:~] gbs%


gbs

On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 10:48 AM, Jim Ingham wrote:

> Larry,
>
> The boxed version of MacOS X has always included the full developer 
> tools suite: gcc, gdb, etc, as well as Tcl (8.3.2 currently) but no Tk 
> yet, and Perl, emacs, vi, and lots of other goodies...  It also comes 
> with a GUI Development Environment Suite (Project Builder/Interface 
> Builder) which are pretty nice, if not as mature as something like VC++ 
> or CodeWarrior.  That's what I used for the Tcl & Tk projects.
>
> The lowest level of the Apple Developer Connection subscription (~$100) 
> will get you quarterly updates to the developer CD, plus lots of other 
> sample code, and SDK type goodies.  Most of these are available for 
> download as well, but the CD's are convenient...
>
> For a while, the machines that were shipping with X on them didn't 
> include the Developer Tools CD in the box (supposedly 'cause it would 
> scare consumer Mac customers), so you would have to send $20 to Apple 
> to get them to ship you the CD, or download the whole CD from Apple's 
> web site (somewhat of a trial unless you have a fast connection).  But 
> the newest G4's have a disk image of the Developer Tools on the hard 
> drive, and also on the restore CD.  I don't know whether this is true 
> of the new iMac's as well.
>
> Have fun...
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 10:24  AM, Larry W. Virden wrote:
>
>> Okay, if I were to be so foolish as to break terribly the family 
>> budget and
>> buy a mac that runs mac os x, putting me into the dog house for the 
>> next
>> 10 or more years, am i even going to be able to do any software 
>> development
>> on the thing?  Or am I still faced with the fact that, as far as I can 
>> tell,
>> one has to sink a large amount of cash into buying a c compiler?
>>
>> I really don't care to rewrite all tcl extensions into java...
>> --
>> Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.
>> Larry W. Virden <mailto:lv...@ca...> <URL: 
>> http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/>
>> Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting 
>> should
>> be construed as representing my employer's opinions.
>> -><-
>>
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