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Re: [MACTCL] more on Tk Cocoa updates
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From: James B. <jam...@me...> - 2012-07-22 16:58:19
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oh dear, that was a typo - " tcl.h says this is 8.4.9", I meant to say "tcl.h says this is 8.5.9". - James On Jul 22, 2012, at 1:32 AM, James Burgess wrote: > Maybe someone can clear this up for me. I look on my (Lion) machine in /Library/System/Frameworkds/Tcl.framework/ > and see that tcl.h says this is 8.4.9. This seems to be in sync with opensource.apple.com and corresponds to their latest tree of tcl (their build number 95). Then I look at the 8.5.9 (and later) tar from www.tcl.tk and take a look at some of the macosx files. The ones from the tar balls won't compile, TkpCreateNativeBitmap for example calls QDSwapPort(), this api has gone… so then I look at the tk over on the apple site, it's not the same! It has "modern" looking CF calls. So there is an apple 8.5.9 and a non-apple 8.5.9? What's going on and where do I download the Apple tar ball? > > cheers, > - James > > > On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Steven wrote: > >> Thanks for the succinct test case. >> >> With regards to what Kevin says, and the lack of progress being made, >> perhapsthe best hope is to loby Apple for a paid guru to fix this up. >> >> >> Steven >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Kevin Walzer <kw...@co...> >>> To: tc...@li... >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2012 7:10 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MACTCL] more on Tk Cocoa updates >>> >>> On 7/20/12 3:33 PM, Adrian Robert wrote: >>>> Unfortunately, it seems like everyone who ventures into this code, whatever >>> their skills and determination, ends up heading back out vanquished. And a >>> complete rewrite is too big of a task to contemplate. >>> >>> That includes me. It's been awhile since I dove into the code, but as I >>> recall, it did involve integration of the Tk and Cocoa event loops at a >>> very low level. Daniel Steffen's comment in the thread / bug report that >>> Adrian referenced is probably the most astute diagnosis: >>> >>> "it seems repeated Tcl_ServiceAll() isn't providing quite the semantics >>> needed here, the idle queue should really be processed only once per >>> runloop observer invocation (but all other pending tcl events should be >>> drained) >>> ISTR trying to achieve this via Tcl_DoOneEvent() invocations initially and >>> being unsuccessful (git history may provide details), we may need extra >>> support in tclNotify.c for this." >>> >>> Daniel is the author of the Cocoa port of Tk, and probably the only >>> person qualified to do attack this issue, but as he is not much involved >>> in Tk maintenance anymore, I'm afraid we're stuck wtih these issues. >>> >>> --Kevin >>> >>> -- >>> Kevin Walzer >>> Code by Kevin >>> http://www.codebykevin.com >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tcl-mac mailing list >>> tc...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Tcl-mac mailing list >> tc...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
