Re: [TCLCORE] Question about components of Tcl/Tk8.6

[Jeff H. <je...@ac...>]

On 28/04/2009 8:19 AM, Larry McVoy wrote:
>>>> Thus please don't add any extensions (except PNG in Tk) in standard Tcl package.
>>> That comment made me laugh.  Every Tcl'er has the same prescription.
>>> Tcl/Tk should come with the goodies I need, and none of that other crap.
>> Yes, and someone else will say "I don't need Tk, just give me OO 
>> finally!", or similar.  The final line contradicts the argument of the 
>> entire email.
> 
> Personally, I would love to see more stuff in the core.  Instead of putting
> the burden on end users to drag stuff in they need, put the burden on the
> people who want small to toss stuff out.
> 
> The hard part is getting agreement on what should go in.  zlib and png
> are great examples of stuff that finally made it but should have made
> it long ago.  Bwidgets is a great example of something that should not
> be in the core, it's essentially dead from what I can tell, which is a
> bummer but putting dead code into the core seems bad.  Perhaps one of 
> the tests for inclusion is "are you willing, or do you have someone who
> is willing, to maintain this for at least the next 3 years?"  If the
> answer is no, well, I guess you don't care enough.

Note that BWidgets is not a core candidate for exactly the question you 
stated above.  Instead we are looking at alternative megawidget 
solutions that contain much better frameworks and will be much easier to 
maintain for years to come.

> I'd be willing to dedicate some of our resources on trying to shepherd 
> stuff into tk if that helps.

That's always welcome.  My laundry list for Tk isn't getting shorter, 
and it's all good stuff.

Jeff