Re: [Tapestry-developer] PLEASE USE JAKARTA MAILING LISTS

[Tarun R. E. <ta...@we...>]

I belive that should be tap...@ja... as mentioned in
http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ViewLists.


On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 19:51, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
> I no longer monitor the two SourceForge mailing lists.
> 
> Please subscribe to the Jakarta Mailing Lists:
> 
> tap...@ja...  -  For all questions about using Tapestry.
> tap...@ja... - For Tapestry committers ONLY.
> 
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
> 
> Feel free to monitor the developer mailing list and even contribute if you
> have something worthwhile to say.  We often discuss future directions for
> Tapestry and are interested in comments by end-users who have deployed
> Tapestry applications.  Active participation in this list is the first step
> towards becoming a Tapestry committer.
> 
> 
> People have begun to CONSISTENTLY misuse the mailing lists.
> 
> If you are having problems with your Tapestry application, don't understand
> the documentation, need help ...please contact us on the user mailing list
> (tap...@ja...).  We want to help, to grow the community,
> to fix anything broken in the framework.
> 
> As the volume of traffic on the mailing lists increase, "bad" messages are
> going to get ignored!  If you have a problem and are seeking resolution it
> is vitally important that you play by the rules:
> 
> 1) Tapestry is free.  Nobody owes you anything.  
> 
> Our desire to grow and support the community is great, but we're all
> sacrificing family time, play time, time with our friends, spouses and kids
> to contribute to the project ... so if we have a low level of frustration
> for poorly written, undocumented help requests, so be it.
> 
> 2) Do not e-mail individual team members!  
> 
> Use the lists and only the lists.  Getting e-mail just pisses us off (well,
> me anyway), and a spam filter may eat the message anyway.   We want to help,
> but we're not your personally help desk.  In addition, questions and
> responses need to be on the list to be archived, so that the NEXT person has
> a resource before contacting the list.
> 
> 
> 3) Be polite. 
> 
> Mark Fleury can get away with being an asshole (just once), but you can't. 
> 
> 4) Do your research.  
> 
> There's a lot of Tapestry documentation.  Did you read it?  Did you look at
> the code?  Did you use the debugger to step through problem areas?
> 
> 5) Provide information.  
> 
> You've seen the Tapestry Exception page.  Use it!  Messages like "My page
> broke" are asking US to do YOUR work.  The first step is to cut-and-paste
> the exception report into your mail.  All that information can be a very
> precise description of the what and why of your problem.
> 
> 
> Please read the following BEFORE posting a help request to the list:
> http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:Rx-raoTa3JUC:www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/s
> mart-questions.html&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry
> 
> 
> 
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