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From: Josef 'J. S. <ju...@gm...> - 2005-06-17 20:19:01
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Hi! TAO is a trademark of Alenia Spazio S.p.A. that is used as the name of a programming language. To make confusion perfect that aims at scientific use. For more see: http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/ape/html/APEmille/Documentation/Software/TAO/ Obviously even if one does not fear trademark issues the problem chances are good to confuse both languages at first sight. Houston, we've got a problem... Two remarks: DESY means 'Deutsches Elektronen-SYnchrotron' - 'German electron synchrotron' "Thou shan't call thy language 'tao'" essentially means the same as "do not call your language 'tao'" but is written in the language of the ten commandments ("thou shall not kill", "honor thy mother and thy father", ...). Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT --=20 Your computer seems to have been infected by "nTOSkrnl.exe" (the "New Tramiel Operating System" is a revised version of the Atari ST/TT operating system and is known not to run on a PC). Please make sure to remove any file with that name=E2=80=A6 |
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From: Limin Fu <fu....@gm...> - 2005-06-19 10:08:24
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From: Josef 'J. S. <ju...@gm...> - 2005-06-20 21:29:17
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Hi! At Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:08:20 +0200, Limin Fu wrote: > The name of the language is something disturbed me from time to > time. I found it's very hard to find a good name for it, it seems > good names are always used by somebody for something :-(. Before I > used another name Yuan for this language, but it is also used as > certain terminologies in Chinese(e.g. Yuan language, also means meta > language), in addition, I found if difficult for non-chinese to > pronounce it correctly. It is usually difficult for any non-native to pronounce words correctly. > One candidate name is Dao, which is essentially the same as Tao in > Chinese, Dao is the official pronouncation of that Chinese word, > while Tao the is the pronouncation in some dialect. If I use Dao, I > don't need to change its Chinese name :-). So far I only knew 'Dao' as a first name of the fictional character "Dao Lin-H'ay" that occurs in the German SF series 'Perry Rhodan' - before you ask: she definitely cannot be Chinese because she is a feline extraterrestrian. Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT -- Your computer seems to have been infected by "nTOSkrnl.exe" (the "New Tramiel Operating System" is a revised version of the Atari ST/TT operating system and is known not to run on a PC). Please make sure to remove any file with that name... |
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From: Limin Fu <fu....@gm...> - 2005-06-19 15:33:34
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Hi! I spent some time to check things on Dao, all of them have nothing to do=20 with programming language. The only thing worried me is DAO(Data Access=20 Object), it turn out to be an older technology owned by Microsoft, it's not= =20 a language, but just a programming interface for accessing Access database.= =20 And on its website, it seems that DAO will be replaced by a technology=20 called ADO(ActiveX Data Objects):=20 http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=3D/library/en-us/odeopg/h= tml/deovrmicrosoftofficedataaccesstechnologies.asp I don't worry about trademarks, I wonder if such single general word can be= =20 registered as a trademark. You mention TAO is a trademark, but it's=20 different from Tao, TAO stands for some kind of technology, but Tao not. So= =20 I think even if I continue to use Tao,=20 there should be no legal problem. And even TAO is registered as trademark b= y=20 different companies or people in different places(Google told me this)! Anyway, I'm not going to register the name of this language as a trademark,= =20 so I should be free to use any name. To avoid similar names on similar thin= g=20 is just a matter of clarity. I think changing from Tao to Dao should be the= =20 right thing. In the following days, I will try to register a new sourceforge project wit= h=20 the new name, hopefully, this is the last time I do this kind of things^_^.= =20 And within two months, I will make a new release with the new name and the= =20 new multi-threading feature! Cheers, Limin |
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From: Josef 'J. S. <ju...@gm...> - 2005-06-20 21:29:30
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Hi! At Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:33:29 +0200, Limin Fu wrote: > I don't worry about trademarks, I wonder if such single general word > can be registered as a trademark. 'Kraft' is German for force, 'Heinz' is a German first name, 'Kinder' is German for 'children'. All three words are trademarks. Some gay rights group used "Wir geh=F6ren zur Familie" (we belong to the family) and were sent a letter by the company that owned that trademark. > You mention TAO is a trademark, but it's different from Tao, TAO > stands for some kind of technology, but Tao not. So I think even if > I continue to use Tao, there should be no legal problem. And even > TAO is registered as trademark by different companies or people in > different places(Google told me this)! I don't know about the general case but in Germany it is not checked if a trademark has already been registered. As long as nobody cries "Hey! That is *mine*!" Nothing will happen. On the other hand any of the companies that registered the TM can ask you to stop using their TM (wired but true). Of course "Tao" and "TAO" are different but at least in Germany it is sufficient if they are similar enough (whatever that means). I am not sure if that is a general case because Germany is known to have quite stupid rules. To get permission to stay in Germany to study, non-EU citizens need to proof that they are inscribed at a university. To inscribe at a university you need to proof that you have permission to stay in Germany. Sounds logical, doesn't it? Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT --=20 Your computer seems to have been infected by "nTOSkrnl.exe" (the "New Tramiel Operating System" is a revised version of the Atari ST/TT operating system and is known not to run on a PC). Please make sure to remove any file with that name... |
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From: Limin Fu <fu....@gm...> - 2005-06-21 20:00:16
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Hi! On 6/20/05, Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT <ju...@gm...> wrote:=20 >=20 >=20 > I don't know about the general case but in Germany it is not checked > if a trademark has already been registered. As long as nobody cries > "Hey! That is *mine*!" Nothing will happen. On the other hand any of > the companies that registered the TM can ask you to stop using their > TM (wired but true). Perhaps, it is also like this in other countries. I am not sure if that is a general case because Germany is known to > have quite stupid rules. To get permission to stay in Germany to > study, non-EU citizens need to proof that they are inscribed at a > university. To inscribe at a university you need to proof that you > have permission to stay in Germany. Sounds logical, doesn't it? Maybe that's due to bureaucracy - each department of the government makes= =20 rule so that they will not be reponsible if something goes wrong. That's=20 what often happens in Chinese bureaucracy.=20 By the way, I registered a new SF project called daoscript, and I started= =20 to use Dao as the new name for the language in the project. A new mailing= =20 list is also created in that project. Maybe we can start to use that mailin= g=20 list:-) Limin |
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