Re: [Supertuxkart-devel] Track independent number of laps

[<coz...@gm...>]

Hi all,


> > First, the customized Grand Prix should be in the Quick Race menu. And
> Do you mean the menu to customise a GP, or the actual customised GP?

The actual customized GP.


> > while we are at that, the Quick Race menu should change then name to
> > 'Custom Race', which is really the point of the 'Quick Race' menu.
> Gee, am I the only done regularly doing quick races? :)) Yes, I am the guy
> who needs a save-game feature :))
>
> 'Custom' sounds like one has to customised it first. What about: "singele track
> race" ... probably too long. Any other ideas?

Well, when you select the number of laps, and the track, it would be
customized :p That's what I thought. But it can't be single track
race, if it has a custom list of tracks either ?

What I want is to separate what is now the Grand Prix as a
'progression mode' (we give players the option to choose a Prix, that
are made the way the game is meant to be played to be the most fun,
and players unlock hidden features), and what is now the Quick Race
(players choose all the possible options and do things the way they
think that will be the most fun).

> > Second, I don't want more than one number of laps entry in the .cup
>
> I assume you mean more than one set of number of laps for each track?
> Or do you prefer to have each track the same number of laps in a GP?

Oh, my mistake. I meant the .track file, not the .cup file.


> The GP should be designed to come in three flavours: short, medium,
> and long  (except perhaps the 'all tracks GP', which will be XL ... if we leave
> it in).

I wonder, it could be simplified if we just use short for easy, medium
for uh, medium difficulty, and long for hard difficulty?



> > Another thing is that I think we should keep the time to complete a
> > track between 1 minute and 15 seconds and 3 minutes and 30 seconds as
> > a hard limit, with an average time of ~2 minutes. STK is an arcade
>
> >From the timings reported earlier, it looks like our current average is
> closer to one minute per lap. Of course, these results where weighted with
> the number of times certain tracks were used.

I wrote what I think it's our ideal time, not what we have now :)
however, I didn't meant the time to complete 1 lap, but to complete
all laps, so the decision of how much time a track should take is
unrelated to the length of a track, since we can just raise or lower
the number of laps as we see fit.


> > racing game; shorter tracks are better than long tracks because of
> > this. Because of the same, I think that it should never take more than
> > 2 hours and 30 minutes to play all tracks, and that no Grand Prix,
> That would depend on the number of tracks :)

Well, I'm counting on having a lot :)


> Fine with me. The fine tuning via the number of laps per track could make
> sure that each track is run for at least two(?) laps, and that the time
> per track is roughly the same order of magnitude.

I didn't wrote it, because I assumed it would be obvious (probably I
assumed wrongly), but I think that each track should be run at least
two times.


> > And one last thing: I think that the input dialog would be best
> > implemented as part of the widget manager, as an extra feature widgets
> > could enable.
> It could be a separate windows which pops up (maybe semi-transparent over
> the original menu?) Not sure atm where to implement it, you and Robert would
> know best.

Well, I would want to avoid pop-ups, just for consistency, and that
pop-ups might be a bother at times(I would rather like to know where
the text I will write appears before I start writing).

-Coz