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W32/Mydoom.a@MM virus
Hi,

You're receiving this message as you subscribed to the STTR 
mailing list. This list has been all but dead for a very long time
and now I am finally closing it down in light of our new site
design.

Check out the design at www.assimsoft.com - its quite a face
lift.

For those interested in progress development (which is faster
than ever), please regularly check the forum. A lot goes on there.

Goodbye :)

Chris

p.s.  Probably most of you will not even remember what
STTR is - its an open source star trek game that has been
in development for quite some time now.

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The title says it all, STTR Beta 1 Preview 1 has been released.

Remember: this mail list isn't used much nowadays, so I suggest
you have a look at our forums:

http://www.assimsoft.com/forum

Hi,

This mailing list will no longer be the primary source for discussion. This will move to our forum.
The list will stay open for important updates or discussion that suits it.
The forum is at http://sttr.sf.net/phpBB/. There is no webpage link yet, but there soon will be.

Thankyou,

Chris

Hi all,

We've got a lovely new forum on our website now. Check it out
at http://sttr.sf.net/phpBB/ ! This is where we are going to be
our control centre for the future development of Assimilation
Software games.

Also, we're having a number of policy changes on the way
Assimilation Software is organised. I'll post these on the forum 
(and maybe this list and the news page) soon.

Regards,

Chris

Hi all,

I've just written a very long FAQ about STTR. Its fun reading :-)

If you have _any_ relevant questions I haven't covered. Feel free to contact me!

Regards,

Chris

Hi all,

I thought I'd post an early story draft of our sequel to STTR, "Star Trek: Borg Incursion".
It should be noted that most of the work has been done on the overall plot, but a lot will
be done to flesh it out and make it make more sense (it does make sense, but it is very
complicated and needs explaining more).

There is more information about how STTR and STBI link together on our website
(storyboard section).

Any ideas are always welcome.

Regards.

Chris

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>Message: 2
>From: "Chris Graham" <chr...@po...>
>To: <stt...@li...>
>Subject: RE: [Sttr-open] Already though of DS9 "The Ship"
>Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:17:21 -0000
>
>You know about "A time to stand" (6.1) where the DS9 crew
>actually fly a Jem'Hedar ship? Unfortunately, you don't
>see outside the bridge as far as I remember.
>

Yes, a time to stand indeed.  I recalled that episode aswell,
but they stay on the darn bridge.  I have the bridge layout thanks to
ST magazine.

Thanks
Kode

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>Message: 2
>From: "Chris Graham" <chr...@po...>
>To: <stt...@li...>
>Subject: RE: [Sttr-open] Already though of DS9 "The Ship"
>Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:17:21 -0000
>
>You know about "A time to stand" (6.1) where the DS9 crew
>actually fly a Jem'Hedar ship? Unfortunately, you don't
>see outside the bridge as far as I remember.
>

Yes, a time to stand indeed.  I recalled that episode aswell,
but they stay on the darn bridge.  I have the bridge layout thanks to
ST magazine.

Thanks
Kode

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You know about "A time to stand" (6.1) where the DS9 crew
actually fly a Jem'Hedar ship? Unfortunately, you don't
see outside the bridge as far as I remember.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: stt...@li...
> [mailto:stt...@li...]On Behalf Of Kode A.C.
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:26 AM
> To: stt...@li...
> Subject: [Sttr-open] Already though of DS9 "The Ship"
>
>
> >Message: 2
> >Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:21:35 -0800 (PST)
> >From: Scott Searvogel <sse...@ya...>
> >To: stt...@li...
> >Subject: [Sttr-open] Jem'Hadar Interior Found!
> >
> >I checked into the interior of the Jem'Hadar ship. I
> >remembered an episode where they were stranded on a
> >planet and took refudge in a crashed Jem'Hadar ship. I
> >checked arround and found out that the name of the DS9
> >episode was "The Ship". startrek.com has a few pics
> >and a short video of the episode that shows a few
> >great shots of the interior, just remember the ship
> >crashed upside down so there walking arround on the
> >cealings! The address to the page with the video is
> >(hope this works)
> >http://www.startrek.com/library/media_DS9.asp?id=18913
> >if you cant get there by that do the following: go to
> ><www.startrek.com> click <library> click the <DS9
> >icon> All the episodes will come up, scrole down
> >looking for "The Ship" or <arrange alphabeticly> and
> >scrole to it. You should then see a photo and the
> >icons to show photos and a video. The video shows the
> >interior of the ship ALOT better than the photos.
> >
> >I recently downloaded the mapping softwear from
> >ravensoft. Are there any additional textures anywhere?
> >What can I start mapping? I did a small section of the
> >Enterprise D hall according to my Next Gen Tech Manual
> >CD, but also have some GREAT photos of the hall and
> >sickbay if someone wants those photos let me know. The
> >photos are pictures somone took of the sets, nice and
> >clean, bright, clear.
> >
> >Yep, am I good or what? LOL
> >
> >Scott
>
> Yes Scott you are good, but a little too late =)  I remembered "the ship"
> episode too and I went to startrek.com. I figured that probably
> was the only
> episode that featured a Jem Hadar ship interior.  Unfortunately they only
> had a movie, which I did rip a few shots that I thought I could ref.  low
> res though, but- thanks anyway! :)
>
> I found some textures else where, not st textures but they would
> look good
> on the Jem Hadar map.  too bad I found it while surfing at work,  I don't
> know if I'll ever find them again..
>
> Laterz,
> Kode
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>Message: 2
>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:21:35 -0800 (PST)
>From: Scott Searvogel <sse...@ya...>
>To: stt...@li...
>Subject: [Sttr-open] Jem'Hadar Interior Found!
>
>I checked into the interior of the Jem'Hadar ship. I
>remembered an episode where they were stranded on a
>planet and took refudge in a crashed Jem'Hadar ship. I
>checked arround and found out that the name of the DS9
>episode was "The Ship". startrek.com has a few pics
>and a short video of the episode that shows a few
>great shots of the interior, just remember the ship
>crashed upside down so there walking arround on the
>cealings! The address to the page with the video is
>(hope this works)
>http://www.startrek.com/library/media_DS9.asp?id=18913
>if you cant get there by that do the following: go to
><www.startrek.com> click <library> click the <DS9
>icon> All the episodes will come up, scrole down
>looking for "The Ship" or <arrange alphabeticly> and
>scrole to it. You should then see a photo and the
>icons to show photos and a video. The video shows the
>interior of the ship ALOT better than the photos.
>
>I recently downloaded the mapping softwear from
>ravensoft. Are there any additional textures anywhere?
>What can I start mapping? I did a small section of the
>Enterprise D hall according to my Next Gen Tech Manual
>CD, but also have some GREAT photos of the hall and
>sickbay if someone wants those photos let me know. The
>photos are pictures somone took of the sets, nice and
>clean, bright, clear.
>
>Yep, am I good or what? LOL
>
>Scott

Yes Scott you are good, but a little too late =)  I remembered "the ship" 
episode too and I went to startrek.com. I figured that probably was the only 
episode that featured a Jem Hadar ship interior.  Unfortunately they only 
had a movie, which I did rip a few shots that I thought I could ref.  low 
res though, but- thanks anyway! :)

I found some textures else where, not st textures but they would look good 
on the Jem Hadar map.  too bad I found it while surfing at work,  I don't 
know if I'll ever find them again..

Laterz,
Kode

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Hi,

Theres been some forced behaviour changes to the STTR-open mailing list I
didn't know about. To reply to a message so that everyone saw what you read,
before, you just did a normal reply. But now you have to tell your mail
program to "reply to all" instead of the usual "reply". Otherwise the reply
will only be sent to the poster of the message you are replying to.
Alternatively you could manually set the outgoing address to
stt...@li.... Just be careful or you might get caught
out, and people might not be able to read your replies when you want them
to.

Chris

I checked into the interior of the Jem'Hadar ship. I
remembered an episode where they were stranded on a
planet and took refudge in a crashed Jem'Hadar ship. I
checked arround and found out that the name of the DS9
episode was "The Ship". startrek.com has a few pics
and a short video of the episode that shows a few
great shots of the interior, just remember the ship
crashed upside down so there walking arround on the
cealings! The address to the page with the video is
(hope this works)
http://www.startrek.com/library/media_DS9.asp?id=18913
if you cant get there by that do the following: go to
<www.startrek.com> click <library> click the <DS9
icon> All the episodes will come up, scrole down
looking for "The Ship" or <arrange alphabeticly> and
scrole to it. You should then see a photo and the
icons to show photos and a video. The video shows the
interior of the ship ALOT better than the photos.

I recently downloaded the mapping softwear from
ravensoft. Are there any additional textures anywhere?
What can I start mapping? I did a small section of the
Enterprise D hall according to my Next Gen Tech Manual
CD, but also have some GREAT photos of the hall and
sickbay if someone wants those photos let me know. The
photos are pictures somone took of the sets, nice and
clean, bright, clear.

Yep, am I good or what? LOL

Scott

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> Hello everyone,
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Question:
> ---------------------
> I wanted to know if the entities in the first Person Mode will be
> 3D Models or 3D sprits?

um, yes. I'm not entirely sure about this one. Maybe it'll be a mix.
The problem is getting decent models and skins and even getting sprites
will be pretty hard. Anyone up to any of these challenges? We might be
able to import some freeware quake-X stuff.

>
> What I'm up to:
> ---------------------
>   I have recorded and converted the mid files to MP3 like I was
> asked.  Some
> of them sound terrible just to let you guys know.  =)  I'm not
> sure if it is
> me or if they just really sound bad??  Nevertheless, when I return to
> university I will upload them somewhere =)
>

I think Sam asked for that for his own use. What he wants with them
is anyones guess :-) I still don't see any real advantages in converting
midi->mp3. Yes, the quality might be slightly higher if a decent sample
set was used, but the file size would be huge. However, if we have music
that was originally composed in mp3, that would have massive quality
advantages. I already have one song. btw. I have 34 more MIDI files that
would work quite well in the game, many of them the same tunes as used in
Elite: Frontier. Just for anyone who doesn't know my master plan is to
provide midi's with the standard game download and an mp3 addon pack to
replace these with decent mp3's; whether we can get enough decent mp3's
is another question :-) Anyone up for this challenge?

>   As for the Dominion ship level design, I have gathered some
> images of the
> ship outline and bridge.  I cannot find any corridor images; If
> anyone has a
> ship schematic, which shows exactly where the bride is located,
> email it to
> me please.  I need it so I can be some-what accurate.  Also I need more
> details on the objectives for this level so I can design accordingly.

Good work. A quote for you from a schematic I have (nothing else is useful):
 "The crew complement of 42 is relatively high for such a small ship. To
  accomodate them all, very little of the crafts interior is given over to
  other compartments such as cargo bays"

I don't think we've ever seen outside the bridge, but we have seen corridors
of a Jem'Hedar space station in DS9:Tacking into the wind (I think thats the
episode). www.stinsv.com might have some pics there.

The objective of the level is simply to erradicate all the Jem'Hedar-Borg.
When the last is killed the level will end. This would mean the whole ship
needs mapping out. This shouldn't be a problem, as the ship is really small.
Dimensions: 68x70x18. I think maybe there should be 1 main deck, with
ladders
to access lower level control rooms. There should be bridge, engineering,
small cargo bay, barracks, vorta-office and little rooms for computer
equipment/weapons etc. All connected by minimal corridors.

>
>   I have also looked at the Main story board and sketched out my
> take on the
> camera shots for the CGIs.  I'm going to scan in my drawings... I
> scribbled
> them out, so don't expect a Picasso ;) , but I hope you will get
> an idea of
> my vision.

Thanks

>
> G'day!,
> Kode AC
>

Hello everyone,

Happy New Year!

Question:
---------------------
I wanted to know if the entities in the first Person Mode will be
3D Models or 3D sprits?

What I'm up to:
---------------------
  I have recorded and converted the mid files to MP3 like I was asked.  Some 
of them sound terrible just to let you guys know.  =)  I'm not sure if it is 
me or if they just really sound bad??  Nevertheless, when I return to 
university I will upload them somewhere =)

  As for the Dominion ship level design, I have gathered some images of the 
ship outline and bridge.  I cannot find any corridor images; If anyone has a 
ship schematic, which shows exactly where the bride is located, email it to 
me please.  I need it so I can be some-what accurate.  Also I need more 
details on the objectives for this level so I can design accordingly.

  I have also looked at the Main story board and sketched out my take on the 
camera shots for the CGIs.  I'm going to scan in my drawings... I scribbled 
them out, so don't expect a Picasso ;) , but I hope you will get an idea of 
my vision.

G'day!,
Kode AC

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Merry Christmas (okay I'm a day too late :-)

There's not much news for Star Trek: The Resistance at the moment,
except:

Gus will now be the STTR first-person-map-team-leader, so if anybody
wants to have any part in designing or making maps, or anything related
to first-person mode really, he's the guy to talk to. His mail address is on
our website.

Regards,

Chris

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anything STTR related.

Hi,

I'm working on Beta 1 of Star Trek: The Resistance now, which is basically a
rewrite of over half the game. I'm working on rewriting all the stuff the
new OpenGL part of the engine is going to use, then I'll actually get my
hands dirty with OpenGL.

So far I have:
 - done major reworkings to many parts of the system
 - implemented all the structures required for the new engine
 - implemented the new map/saved game loader
 - implemented the new "type" loader
 - implemented the new sprite loader
 - implemented the new weapon loader
 - implemented the new infobar

I'd recon I'm about 20% of the way to getting the new engine finished. I've
written about 1000 all-new lines of C++ code for the above to happen
(previously there was 11.5 k lines of code altogether).

Thanks for "listening",

Chris

p.s. The new engine is going to be very cool. Especially the first-person
mode and new weapons that have been carefully planned.

Hi.

You may or may not know about the new Star Trek: The Resistance engine
I am developing, but here are the design documents for the technically
minded
of you.

It will be written in OpenGL, and a 3D video card will be very recommended.

Chris

Hi,

The latest alpha, alpha 15 is out now at our website, http://sttr.sf.net
Check out the news page for more info.

Chris

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