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[Statcvs-users] Displaying authors' real names

[James R. <sj...@jd...>]

Hi all,

First of all, I'm new to this list but I've been using StatCVS to track a 
software engineering group project that I've been working on at uni for my 
honours work.

Our team has about 12 members, and StatCVS is an integral and invaluable part 
of our reporting of project progress to our lecturers!

Before StatCVS, we were using the cvs2cl script, which has a nice feature in 
that it allows you to specify the path to a Unix-style "passwd" file. After 
doing this, user's login names are translated to their real names.

I've added this functionality to StatCVS via a small patch, and you can see 
the results at http://xtuml.jdns.org/statcvs/ .

The patch adds a -passwd <path> command line option which does not interrupt 
the normal operation of StatCVS if the given path doesn't exist or cannot be 
read.

This patch does not actually modify the HTML output of StatCVS in any way. I'd 
like to see what you guys think about it before that! :)

Thanks for a great product!

Regards,
James

-- 
James Ring

[Statcvs-users] Output information control options?

[Surendra S. <ss...@sp...>]

Hello,
  Is there any way I can control the amount of output which statcvs generates?
It generates a lot of data, but I want it to generate only say information
in the authors section.
Is there any way I can control this?

Thanks.
 
-- 
Surendra Singhi

Re: [Statcvs-users] Tracking Tags?

[Robin G. <rg...@bl...>]

>If you look statcvs mail archive at last march, there is an answer.
>http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=11441&max_rows=25&style=threaded&viewmonth=200503
>
>So tags are supported,

As always - way ahead of me.

Are the tags only in the png? as in 
http://statcvs.sourceforge.net/statcvs-stats/loc.html

I can't read the last tag (something like symbol??????-merge) which 
happened sometime between Nov2004 and Jan2005 - it does not seem to appear 
in the commit log at:
http://statcvs.sourceforge.net/statcvs-stats/commit_log.html


I was hoping for something like a table so that users could read the 
tags/know the exact date? Something like
http://destailleur.fr/cvschangelogb/cvschangelogbuilder_cvschangelogb.html#tags

>but not in version 0.2.2. You have build that version from statcvs main 
>branch.

Does anyone keep a pre-build version from CVS head around anywhere?

Thanks
-Robin 

Re: [Statcvs-users] Tracking Tags?

[Jukka U. <juk...@dn...>]

Robin Getz wrote:
> I was wondering if there was a way to track/display tags? (or was I 
> missing something?)
> 
> I was interested in a table something similar to the output of "cvs 
> history -a -x T"
> 
> Date               Module        Tag                         Who
> 

If you look statcvs mail archive at last march, there is an answer.
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=11441&max_rows=25&style=threaded&viewmonth=200503

So tags are supported, but not in version 0.2.2. You have build that 
version from statcvs main branch.

- Jukka -

[Statcvs-users] Tracking Tags?

[Robin G. <rg...@bl...>]

I was wondering if there was a way to track/display tags? (or was I missing 
something?)

I was interested in a table something similar to the output of "cvs history 
-a -x T"

Date               Module        Tag                         Who

Thanks
-Robin

[Statcvs-users] Branch

[<G....@po...>]

Does anybody know that why StatCVS ignores branch part, is this part too hard
or other problems from cvs part?

George


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[Bill W. <bi...@hf...>]

Why I always get follow error :-(

Checkout code: cvs -d:pserver:rockeyxu@172.16.209.201:/usr/local/cvsrep co
prjm/wci/WCI3.6 (ok)

 

Make log file: cvs -d:pserver:rockeyxu@172.16.209.201:/usr/local/cvsrep log
-rELVIS_0_1> logfile.txt

(Report some warning, like cvs server: warning: no revision `ELVIS_0_1' in
`/usr/local/cvsrep/prjm/wci/WCI3.6/DB/wci 3.6 db patch 2005-04-18.sql,v')

 

Generate Report: java -jar /root/statcvs/statcvs.jar -verbose -include
"**/*.tpl;**/*.cls;**/*.inc;**/*.java;**/*.php;**/*.xml;**/*.js" -output-dir
report -title "WCI3.0.1" -viewcvs
http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/cvs/jikes/jikes/ prjm/logfile.txt
prjm/

Exception happened

        at java.util.TreeMap$EntryIterator.nextEntry(TreeMap.java:1024)

        at java.util.TreeMap$KeyIterator.next(TreeMap.java:1051)

        at net.sf.statcvs.output.IndexPage.getOnlyAuthor(IndexPage.java:147)

        at
net.sf.statcvs.output.IndexPage.getReportNavigation(IndexPage.java:94)

        at net.sf.statcvs.output.IndexPage.printBody(IndexPage.java:71)

        at net.sf.statcvs.output.HTMLPage.createPage(HTMLPage.java:60)

        at net.sf.statcvs.output.IndexPage.<init>(IndexPage.java:63)

        at
net.sf.statcvs.output.HTMLOutput.createHTMLSuite(HTMLOutput.java:198)

        at net.sf.statcvs.Main.generateDefaultHTMLSuite(Main.java:192)

        at net.sf.statcvs.Main.main(Main.java:75)

 

 

 

Re: [Statcvs-users] does not match expected revision?

[Richard C. <ri...@cy...>]

Hi Robin,

I'm sorry for taking so long to answer your question. Your working  
copy is from the UPSTREAM_0_81_1 branch of your project, and StatCVS  
doesn't support branches. That's why the warning occurs. You should  
check out a working copy of the trunk, and the warnings will  
disappear. Also note that the 1.1.1 branch is usually used for  
importing new vendor releases. I'm not sure that working on that  
branch (as your project seems to be doing) is a good idea.

Cheers,
Richard


Am 06.05.2005 um 23:46 schrieb Robin Getz:

> I am using the CVS statcvs, and am now seeing a problem that it  
> puts up error messages like:
>
> ====
> Revision of xmame/src/xml2info/xmltok_impl.h does not match  
> expected revision
> ====
> for every file.
>
> The cvs.log file says the version is 1.1.1.1:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> RCS file: /cvsroot/xmame/xmame/src/xml2info/xmltok_impl.h,v
> Working file: xmame/src/xml2info/xmltok_impl.h
> head: 1.1
> branch: 1.1.1
> locks: strict
> access list:
> symbolic names:
>         BFIN_1_0: 1.1.1.1
>         INITIAL_0_1: 1.1.1.1
>         INITIAL_0_0: 1.1.1.1
>         UPSTREAM_0_81_1: 1.1.1
> keyword substitution: kv
> total revisions: 2;     selected revisions: 2
> description:
> ----------------------------
> revision 1.1
> date: 2004-09-07 07:03:20 -0700;  author: lvd;  state: Exp;
> branches:  1.1.1;
> Initial revision
> ----------------------------
> revision 1.1.1.1
> date: 2004-09-07 07:03:20 -0700;  author: lvd;  state: Exp;  lines:  
> +0 -0
> import of pristine xmame-0.81.1 source tree
> ====================================================================== 
> =======
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> and the ./xmame/src/xml2info/CVS/Entries file says the same:
>
> /xmltok_impl.h/1.1.1.1/Tue Sep  7 14:03:20 2004//
>
> Any thoughts? What I am doing wrong?
> It still seems to create everything OK, but it is a little puzzeling?
>
> Thanks
> -Robin
>
>
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[Statcvs-users] does not match expected revision?

[Robin G. <rg...@bl...>]

I am using the CVS statcvs, and am now seeing a problem that it puts up 
error messages like:

====
Revision of xmame/src/xml2info/xmltok_impl.h does not match expected revision
====
for every file.

The cvs.log file says the version is 1.1.1.1:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RCS file: /cvsroot/xmame/xmame/src/xml2info/xmltok_impl.h,v
Working file: xmame/src/xml2info/xmltok_impl.h
head: 1.1
branch: 1.1.1
locks: strict
access list:
symbolic names:
         BFIN_1_0: 1.1.1.1
         INITIAL_0_1: 1.1.1.1
         INITIAL_0_0: 1.1.1.1
         UPSTREAM_0_81_1: 1.1.1
keyword substitution: kv
total revisions: 2;     selected revisions: 2
description:
----------------------------
revision 1.1
date: 2004-09-07 07:03:20 -0700;  author: lvd;  state: Exp;
branches:  1.1.1;
Initial revision
----------------------------
revision 1.1.1.1
date: 2004-09-07 07:03:20 -0700;  author: lvd;  state: Exp;  lines: +0 -0
import of pristine xmame-0.81.1 source tree
=============================================================================
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

and the ./xmame/src/xml2info/CVS/Entries file says the same:

/xmltok_impl.h/1.1.1.1/Tue Sep  7 14:03:20 2004//

Any thoughts? What I am doing wrong?
It still seems to create everything OK, but it is a little puzzeling?

Thanks
-Robin

Re: [Statcvs-users] StatCVS output results in XML

[Richard C. <ri...@cy...>]

Hi Ajay,

Am 21.04.2005 um 14:13 schrieb DHARNA, AJAY [AG/1000]:
> Does anyone know whether I can get StatCVS to put the results in the 
> form of an XML?

I'm pretty sure StatCvs-XML does what you want.

> Also I was curious to know whether you can only run StatCVS against 
> checked-out module or whether you can actually run it against the 
> server itself?

No, currently you need to have a working copy and log file. Tom 
Copeland's article on StatCVS has a section on report automation that 
might be of interest:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-statcvs/#IDA01GJE

> Thank you for your help
>
> Ajay Dharna

Cheers,
Richard

Re: [Statcvs-users] StatCVS output results in XML

[Tammo v. L. <tva...@ta...>]

Hi,

What kind of xml do you expect? Try a run with '-renderer xml'. 
Moreover, you can create your own document suite to customize which 
reports should be generated. You can specify its path with the 
'-document-suite <filename>' parameter.

See http://statcvs-xml.berlios.de/manual/suite.html for more information.

Tammo

DHARNA, AJAY [AG/1000] wrote:
> I tried this before but I was hoping to be able to get just a pure XML document. 
> Do you know of other tools that are similar to StatCVS or can be used with StatCVS to create this?
> 
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Ajay Dharna
> Monsanto Company
> 800 North Lindbergh Blvd.
> St. Louis, Missouri 63167
> 
> (314) 694-2507
> Aja...@mo...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tammo van Lessen [mailto:tva...@ta...] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:24 AM
> To: DHARNA, AJAY [AG/1000]
> Cc: sta...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Statcvs-users] StatCVS output results in XML
> 
> Ajay,
> 
> you could take a look at http://statcvs-xml.berlios.de - It is an 
> extension of the StatCvs and provides renderers for maven's XDoc and an 
> intermediate XML format.
> 
> Regards,
>    Tammo
> 
> DHARNA, AJAY [AG/1000] wrote:
> 
>>Does anyone know whether I can get StatCVS to put the results in the
>>form of an XML?
>>
>>Also I was curious to know whether you can only run StatCVS against
>>checked-out module or whether you can actually run it against the
>>server itself?
>>
>>
>>Thank you for your help
>>
>>Ajay Dharna
>>
>>
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RE: [Statcvs-users] StatCVS output results in XML

[DHARNA, A. [AG/1000] <aja...@mo...>]

I tried this before but I was hoping to be able to get just a pure XML document. 
Do you know of other tools that are similar to StatCVS or can be used with StatCVS to create this?


Thank you

Ajay Dharna
Monsanto Company
800 North Lindbergh Blvd.
St. Louis, Missouri 63167

(314) 694-2507
Aja...@mo...

-----Original Message-----
From: Tammo van Lessen [mailto:tva...@ta...] 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:24 AM
To: DHARNA, AJAY [AG/1000]
Cc: sta...@li...
Subject: Re: [Statcvs-users] StatCVS output results in XML

Ajay,

you could take a look at http://statcvs-xml.berlios.de - It is an 
extension of the StatCvs and provides renderers for maven's XDoc and an 
intermediate XML format.

Regards,
   Tammo

DHARNA, AJAY [AG/1000] wrote:
> Does anyone know whether I can get StatCVS to put the results in the
> form of an XML?
> 
> Also I was curious to know whether you can only run StatCVS against
> checked-out module or whether you can actually run it against the
> server itself?
> 
> 
> Thank you for your help
> 
> Ajay Dharna
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Statcvs-users] StatCVS output results in XML

[Tammo v. L. <tva...@ta...>]

Ajay,

you could take a look at http://statcvs-xml.berlios.de - It is an 
extension of the StatCvs and provides renderers for maven's XDoc and an 
intermediate XML format.

Regards,
   Tammo

DHARNA, AJAY [AG/1000] wrote:
> Does anyone know whether I can get StatCVS to put the results in the
> form of an XML?
> 
> Also I was curious to know whether you can only run StatCVS against
> checked-out module or whether you can actually run it against the
> server itself?
> 
> 
> Thank you for your help
> 
> Ajay Dharna
> 
> 
> 
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[Statcvs-users] StatCVS output results in XML

[DHARNA, A. [AG/1000] <aja...@mo...>]

Does anyone know whether I can get StatCVS to put the results in the form of an XML?
 
Also I was curious to know whether you can only run StatCVS against checked-out module or whether you can actually run it against the server itself?


Thank you for your help

Ajay Dharna

[Statcvs-users] visualization from cvs

[Aaron Z. <az...@me...>]

Just to remind people, I'm currently writing a visualization that looks 
at the relationship between code & communication.  Since I have not 
been able to get an archived version of this mailing list, and I dont 
have time right now for screen scrapping off source forge, I ran my 
visualization against statcvs but without the communication.  You can 
find a copy of it at 
http://bonobo.media.mit.edu:8080/~aaron/statcvs.pdf  There are still 
seems to be a rendering error (where people will cross over each 
other), and this pdf is not a screen shot thus loosing the interactive 
exploration of my program, as well as dates.  But I'm curious to get a 
reaction from a similar project (w/o the communication).  I created 
this by looking at each file revision and who owns the code over time.  
Each color represents a person, and the height is proportional to the 
total amount of code they own as time increases (starting from the 
beginning of the CVS archive).  There is some quantization from nearby 
commits to create smoother lines depending on the scaling of the 
x-axis.... but since this is a 2 year few the quantization is decently 
high.  Also this does not include some deleted files that CVS couldn't 
access (gtk-- doesnt have this error but statcvs does).  To combat the 
visual artifact of one person's commit looking like everyone committed 
(since the whole stack rises), you'll see some white lines going over 
the increases... this indicates who committed and is responsible 
(possible for multiple).  The people are in order of color lukasz, 
cyganiak, manschu, jentzsch, farkas, squig.

Is this what you'd expected statcvs?  Does the data look inaccurate, 
and if not, does it reflect what how you thought about the project in 
comparison to statcvs's outputs of itself?

Thanks for any feedback,

Aaron Zinman            az...@me...
MIT Media Lab           E15-390
Sociable Media Group    617.452.5606

Re: [Statcvs-users] mailing list archives + user testing

[Richard C. <ri...@cy...>]

Hi Aaron,

Am 12.04.2005 um 00:15 schrieb Aaron Zinman:

> As I mentioned previously, I'm working on a visualization that shares 
> some similar goals to statcvs, but with the one big addition that I 
> also include communication into my visualization.

That's great -- there's much value in getting all the information 
related to a project (mailing lists, issue tracking, CVS, file releases 
etc.) nicely integrated.


> I'm getting to the point where I want to start pulling in a mailing 
> list archive, and since statcvs has few developers and I would 
> consider successful (I'd be interested to hear your thoughts), I am 
> requesting a single-file archive of the mailing list.  I used to have 
> one (which I accidently deleted), but now it seems that source forge 
> has a web-only interface?  Furthermore, I don't have access to the 
> developer mailing list which is where my interest really lies.

Originally there have been three mailing lists: statcvs-users, 
statcvs-devel and statcvs-announce. All but the first have been retired 
some time ago. This means they no longer show up on the website, but 
are still there in the system.

I don't have any full archives either, but you might be able to ask the 
SourceForge support staff for an archive of the lists in mbox format. 
Ask here:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001


> Since I'm attempting to publish on this in the near future (infovis 05 
> due april 20th...soon!), I'll be happy to send a link to my paper PDF

I'd be very interested in that.

> and program (I don't know about source yet.. I have to request from 
> MIT first to GPL it).  Even better, I'd love to hear some feedback on 
> it before the 20th that I might be able to put in my informal 
> evaluation section.

Will happily comment.

> One of the biggest differences of my project in looking at code is 
> tracking where people's code was taken out, and subtracting that from 
> a persons running total.

Yeah, that's a fine approach too. The StatCVS approach measures 
everybody's overall contribution over time, yours measures whose code 
actually makes up the current code base. Both are different things, 
both are interesting and useful. The perfect tool would show both and 
clearly and intuitively explain what both numbers mean.

> Also, I think my visualization looks much nicer than the statcvs :)

I reserve judgement on that until I've seen it ;-)

Cheers,
Richard




> I'd appreciate any feedback/help,
>
> --Aaron
>
>
> Aaron Zinman            az...@me...
> MIT Media Lab           E15-390
> Sociable Media Group    617.452.5606

[Statcvs-users] mailing list archives + user testing

[Aaron Z. <az...@me...>]

As I mentioned previously, I'm working on a visualization that shares 
some similar goals to statcvs, but with the one big addition that I 
also include communication into my visualization.  I'm getting to the 
point where I want to start pulling in a mailing list archive, and 
since statcvs has few developers and I would consider successful (I'd 
be interested to hear your thoughts), I am requesting a single-file 
archive of the mailing list.  I used to have one (which I accidently 
deleted), but now it seems that source forge has a web-only interface?  
Furthermore, I don't have access to the developer mailing list which is 
where my interest really lies.

Since I'm attempting to publish on this in the near future (infovis 05 
due april 20th...soon!), I'll be happy to send a link to my paper PDF 
and program (I don't know about source yet.. I have to request from MIT 
first to GPL it).  Even better, I'd love to hear some feedback on it 
before the 20th that I might be able to put in my informal evaluation 
section.  One of the biggest differences of my project in looking at 
code is tracking where people's code was taken out, and subtracting 
that from a persons running total.  Also, I think my visualization 
looks much nicer than the statcvs :)

I'd appreciate any feedback/help,

--Aaron


Aaron Zinman            az...@me...
MIT Media Lab           E15-390
Sociable Media Group    617.452.5606

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Ms.Neha Dixit ( Head - Customer Relations)
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[Statcvs-users] Re: developer access

[Lukasz K. <lu...@ko...>]

Hi Chris,

please, send us a patch for your error fix. Before we can grant write permission to the CVS to you, you
should provide substantial code to statcvs. Which changes do you plan to implement for statcvs in the future?

ciao, Lukasz

Chris Additon schrieb:
> Message body follows:
> 
> Hi,
> We (my company) has just started using statcvs as a tool to 
> report stats from cvs and integrated with cvsweb.
> While using this software for the first time, I found a bug in 
> the url creation for cvsweb file links.  I downloaded the 
> sourcecode and made the changes I needed, and everything 
> works great here now.  I would like to have commit access to 
> cvs so I could upload the changes I made, and any future 
> ones I may have.
> Thanks,
> Chris Additon
> 
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Re: [Statcvs-users] Release early and often?

[Jukka U. <juk...@dn...>]

Richard Cyganiak wrote:
> Hi Jukka,
> 
> Thanks for the thoughtful response! Responses/questions inline.
> 

Hi,

some comments below ...


> Am 24.03.2005 um 21:40 schrieb Jukka Uusisalo:
> [...]
> 
>> How about process as follows:
>>
>> 1. Decide what new features are in next release
>>
>> 2. Provide nightly-build. Nightly-build is released from cvs head 
>> branch if there are any changes in cvs, code gets compiled and passes 
>> unit tests.
>>
>> 3. When all features in next release are implemented, provide 
>> release-candidate. This point there should be branch in cvs for release-
>> candidate bugfixes. Propably you will need couple of release-candidates.
>>
>> 4. When you think release-candidate is stable enough, just release 
>> official release or maybe uses take a vote, but propably everybody 
>> will use some release candidate as production at this point.
> 
> 
> I think I'd rather skip #1. StatCVS contributions (including my own) 
> come from people scratching an itch, and it's kind of hard to plan that. 
> So I'd rather just wait until there's enough new stuff.
>

But if we talking about short and small releases, why we have to wait?
If there are some new stuff, you can make release plan like at this
moment release plan would be just, next release supports tags.

Release plan does not have to be detailed list of all coming changes or 
bugfixes, just major issues of next release.


> Having a release candidate branch seems like a good idea. This means 
> work on new stuff can continue while the candidate matures.
> 
> Any guesses how long we might have to stay in RC mode before the 
> candidate is well-tested enough?
> 
> Also, is it worth the trouble for such a small project? I don't want to 
> spend much time managing the process.
> 

If you look statcvs cvs activity, release candidates may be wortless.
If there are nightly-build available and new commits haven't done to
cvs and no new bugs are not reported, what we need more for "official" 
release. ;)

> 
>> Nighly-builds requires automated build system and good enough unit test
>> cases. Do you have checked coverage of unit tests?
> 
> 
> I like the idea of nightly builds. Get the new stuff out as fast as 
> possible.
> 
> Our test coverage is not too good, especially in the HTML output code. 
> But I wouldn't worry about that too much, the most important parts are 
> well-tested. I believe that nightly builds would drive test quality 
> because we would actually rely on the tests.
> 
> Any recommendations for a test coverage tool? (I guess the answer will 
> have something to do with Maven :-)
> 

I just played little bit with Clover. They will give free licenses to
open source projects. But i just played, nothing any serious. First 
impressions are pretty good.


- Jukka -

Re: [Statcvs-users] New parameter '-tags'

[Brian G. P. <br...@br...>]

On Sunday 20 March 2005 01:21 pm, Steffen Pingel wrote:
> I have added a new comman line parameter named -tags. It takes a regular
> expression as its argument that specifies the tags to include in the loc
> charts. Here a two examples:

Thanks for the much needed feature!

Here are some examples from two of the open source projects that I am 
associated with:

http://www.braverock.com/gpg/statcvs/loc.html

http://www.explorerfunds.com/dev/xrmsstats/authors.html

I think this makes StatCVS even more useful for tracking the history of a 
project.

Thanks again for the great software!  StatCVS really helps me as both a 
developer and a manager to keep track of what's going on in a project.

Regards,

  - Brian

Re: [Statcvs-users] Release early and often?

[Jukka U. <juk...@dn...>]

Richard Cyganiak wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't go as far as saying that you safely can do a stable release 
> if all tests pass. A green bar is no guarantee that your software is 
> bug-free and fulfills user's requirements.
> 

Agree. Even good junit test suites with green bar has the great effort 
for testing and bug-free programs, i like to see good test
suite is good collection junit test cases and collection just written
test cases derived from use cases or user stories.

If these all tests pass, i think stable release or least release 
candidate is quite near.

- Jukka -

Re: [Statcvs-users] Release early and often?

[Brian G. P. <br...@br...>]

I am an active developer/manager in many open source projects, and have used 
StatCVS for several years/versions.  So, my comments come from this 
perspective.

On Wednesday 23 March 2005 03:54 pm, Richard Cyganiak wrote:
> So what can I do to improve the release process?

I'd Start with nightly builds.  I find that these often allow people who can't 
or won't build the software themselves to test new features as they make it 
into CVS.

If you have JUnit tests for StatCVS, place a link to the test results on the 
same page as the nightly build tarball.  This communicates to developers and 
users what the potential state of the code is without requiring constant 
effort on your part.

> Publish release candidates?
> Offer a stable and a beta download?

My usual approach is to publish a release candidate when the development team 
thinks the code is ready for release, and usually allow a few days for 
testing.  People are generally quite responsive to calls for testing a 
release candidate.  I don't maintain a separate branch in CVS for the release 
candidate, as the entire process usually only takes a few days.

This is a little different on a large project like Squirrelmail.  The 
Squirrelmail development is *always* split into Stable and Development 
branches, and changes are merged back to stable form development.  StatCVS 
does not seem to be a large enough project to require the level of effort 
that goes with maintaining two separate CVS branches.

> Just stop worrying about bugs and release without much testing?

Nightly builds with a test process will find a lot of bugs (though not all of 
them!)

> What do you think? How should an open source release process for a
> project like StatCVS work? Both developer's and user's point of views
> are welcome.

Thanks for the great software!  I rely on it to keep an eye on what the 
development team is doing across multiple projects.  StatCVS has been a great 
help to me, keep it up!

Regards,

   - Brian